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Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

http://www.tmfile.com/mark/?q=868178378

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Trademark FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

This trademark (serial no. 86817837, mark text "FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY") was filed with USPTO on 2015-11-12 and has a current status of "new application - record initialized not assigned to examiner". Use the following table to research its status, prosecution history events, classification of goods & services, and current owner etc.

Basic Information

Actual Characters of Mark Text FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
Mark Physical Characteristics Standard character mark
Trademark Current Status New application - record initialized not assigned to examiner
Trademark Current Status Date 2015-11-17
Registration Number 0
Registration Date
Serial Number 86817837
Trademark Application Filing Date 2015-11-12

Illustration of trademark FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

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Mark Classification

Primary Classification Code 045 Mark First Use Anywhere: N/A
Mark First Use in Commerce: N/A
Class Status: Active
Class Status Date: 2015-11-17
International Class: Personal and social rendered by others to meet the needs of individuals (e.g., social events services, funeral services, matrimonial agencies, etc.) / Security services for the protection of property and individuals (45);
Prior U.S. Class: 1. Miscellaneous (100); 2. Advertising and Business (101);
Classification Statement: Spiritual ministry services

Mark Owner Information

Owning Party Type: Original Applicant
Owner Name: JAMES R. FONDA
Legal Entity Type: Individual
Address: 655 N. Central Avenue, 17th Floor, Glendale, CA 91203

Correspondent

Correspondent: RAYMOND R. TABANDEH
CHRISTIE, PARKER & HALE, LLP, P.O. BOX 29001, GLENDALE, CA 91209-9001
Attorney Name Raymond R. Tabandeh
Attorney No. 79176/F558

Prosecution History Events

Event Date Event Description
2015-11-17 NEW APPLICATION OFFICE SUPPLIED DATA ENTERED IN TRAM

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HT - WWP: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/independent-scientology-coalition-for-standard-tech-interrogatory-on-glenn-samuels.131033/#post-2571707

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US Patent Office File:

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:tdlexw.3.1

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=86817837&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
 
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Jump

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Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology


Build it and they will come.




. . . or not.

 

Anonycat

Crusader
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

So, they applied, is that it?

If that works, they should go big and apply for: Best Shoes by Nike, and get that one too.
 

freethinker

Sponsor
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

Now that they have become a legal corporate entity, they can sue people for using their tech and call themselves a religion, hire lawyers to prevent others from using their tech and can kick people out for not following their doctrine, just like dad.
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

Now that they have become a legal corporate entity, they can sue people for using their tech and call themselves a religion, hire lawyers to prevent others from using their tech and can kick people out for not following their doctrine, just like dad.
I'm probably being pedantic, but it is not a "corporate entity" -- at least not yet. Notice from the OP:

Mark Owner Information

Owning Party Type: Original Applicant
Owner Name: JAMES R. FONDA
Legal Entity Type: Individual
Address: 655 N. Central Avenue, 17th Floor, Glendale, CA 91203
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

Notice from the OP:

Mark Owner Information

Owning Party Type: Original Applicant
Owner Name: JAMES R. FONDA
Legal Entity Type: Individual
Address: 655 N. Central Avenue, 17th Floor, Glendale, CA 91203
I'm going to reply to my own comment to note that Jim Fonda wrote a post on Mike Rinder's blog dated November 4, 2013:

Jim Fonda: Non Corporate Brand Real Scientology Is Available

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/jim-fonda-non-corporate-brand-real-scientology-is-available/
 

freethinker

Sponsor
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

Actually I was just being cynical. Having only a trademark they can't sue for tech use or violation.

I assume it is to make some statement that it is legitimate or genuine Scientology but I have no use for any kind of Scientology so I projected a perceived path which may never occur but these things always have a beginning.

I'm probably being pedantic, but it is not a "corporate entity" -- at least not yet. Notice from the OP:

Mark Owner Information

Owning Party Type: Original Applicant
Owner Name: JAMES R. FONDA
Legal Entity Type: Individual
Address: 655 N. Central Avenue, 17th Floor, Glendale, CA 91203
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

Actually I was just being cynical. Having only a trademark they can't sue for tech use or violation.

I assume it is to make some statement that it is legitimate or genuine Scientology but I have no use for any kind of Scientology so I projected a perceived path which may never occur but these things always have a beginning.
I think your projection is accurate. As noted in other threads, the Religious Liberty League (RLL), an independent Scientology organization (albeit not a "church" as such) has been granted 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status in the US. Now there is a trademark application for the "First Independent Church of Scientology." It appears some Indies are following the advice of the RLL to practice independent Scientology as a "religion," and also to try to get that status formally recognized.
 
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Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

I'm probably being pedantic, but it is not a "corporate entity" -- at least not yet. Notice from the OP:

Mark Owner Information

Owning Party Type: Original Applicant
Owner Name: JAMES R. FONDA
Legal Entity Type: Individual
Address: 655 N. Central Avenue, 17th Floor, Glendale, CA 91203

He must have seen the Hubbard statement about making Scientology your own.

The Anabaptist Jacques
 

ThetanExterior

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

It's about time ESMB became a religion.

We could have online Sunday services where we thank God we're out of Scientology.:yes:
 

CommunicatorIC

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Domain Registered for First Independent Church of Scientology: FICOFS.INFO

Domain Registered for First Independent Church of Scientology: FICOFS.INFO

http://whois.domaintools.com/ficofs.info

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Whois Record for Ficofs.info

Email is associated with ~3 domains
is associated with ~1,827,438 domains
is associated with ~94,548 domains

Registrant Org First Independent Church of Scientology is associated with ~2 other domains
Dates Created on 2016-01-14 - Expires on 2017-01-14
IP Address 74.208.108.90 - 39 other sites hosted on this server
IP Location United States - Missouri - Kansas City - 1&1 Internet Inc.
ASN United States AS8560 ONEANDONE-AS 1&1 Internet AG (registered Nov 26, 1997)
Domain Status Registered And Active Website
Whois History 1 record has been archived since 2016-01-16
IP History 1 change on 2 unique IP addresses over 0 years
Hosting History 1 change on 2 unique name servers over 0 year
Whois Server whois.afilias.net
Website
Website Title None given.
Response Code 200
SEO Score 0%

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Whois Record ( last updated on 2016-01-21 )

Domain Name: FICOFS.INFO
Domain ID: D503300000000707872-LRMS
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL: http://registrar.1and1.info
Updated Date:
Creation Date: 2016-01-14T23:35:38Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2017-01-14T23:35:38Z
Sponsoring Registrar: 1&1 Internet AG
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 83
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: 1ejkavoppf4
Registrant Name: James Fonda
Registrant Organization: First Independent Church of Scientology
Registrant Street: 655 N Central Ave
Registrant Street: FL 1700
Registrant City: Glendale
Registrant State/Province: CA
Registrant Postal Code: 91203
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4082507027
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Admin ID: 1ejkbhcievj
Admin Name: James Fonda
Admin Organization: First Independent Church of Scientology
Admin Street: 655 N Central Ave
Admin Street: FL 1700
Admin City: Glendale
Admin State/Province: CA
Admin Postal Code: 91203
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4082507027
Admin Phone Ext:
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Admin Email:
Tech ID: C3594293-LRMS
Tech Name: Hostmaster ONEANDONE
Tech Organization: 1&1 Internet Inc.
Tech Street: 701 Lee Rd.
Tech Street: Suite 300
Tech City: Chesterbrook
Tech State/Province: PA
Tech Postal Code: 19087
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.8774612631
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.6105601501
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Billing ID: SPAG-41783875
Billing Name: Hostmaster EINSUNDEINS
Billing Organization: 1&1 Internet AG
Billing Street: Ernst-Frey-Str. 10
Billing City: Karlsruhe
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Billing Postal Code: 76135
Billing Country: DE
Billing Phone: +49.721913747660
Billing Phone Ext:
Billing Fax: +49.72191374246
Billing Fax Ext:
Billing Email:
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Name Server: NS-US.1AND1-DNS.US
Name Server: NS-US.1AND1-DNS.DE
Name Server: NS-US.1AND1-DNS.ORG
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dchoiceisalwaysrs

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Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

I am kinda ok with that......as long as I don't get sent to Ethics like I did on the freewinds for being 11 seconds late for service/class. On second thought, maybe it would be okay and then I could get to chat again with Lisa Marie while we wait outside the EO office.
:omg: that was on hindsight so funny, I didn't even recognize her at the time Lol.:dieslaughing:

PS what time Zone does service start?


It's about time ESMB became a religion.

We could have online Sunday services where we thank God we're out of Scientology.:yes:
 

ThetanExterior

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

I am kinda ok with that......as long as I don't get sent to Ethics like I did on the freewinds for being 11 seconds late for service/class. On second thought, maybe it would be okay and then I could get to chat again with Lisa Marie while we wait outside the EO office.
:omg: that was on hindsight so funny, I didn't even recognize her at the time Lol.:dieslaughing:

PS what time Zone does service start?

Ah, that's a question for our Supreme Being - Emma.
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Religious Liberty League on the First Independent Church of Scientology

Religious Liberty League on the First Independent Church of Scientology.

The Religious Liberty League, an Independent Scientology organization, has an article on the First Independent Church of Scientology. As emphasized below, the article provides new information.

Religious Liberty League: The First Independent Church of Scientology

http://religiouslibertyleague.org/the-first-independent-church-of-scientology/

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On November 12, 2015, an application for trademark for the name First Independent Church of Scientology was filed in the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

On or about the same date, the name was reserved by the California Secretary of State for use within sixty (60) days as a nonprofit religious corporation, and when the 60-day period expired, the name was reserved for a second 60-day period.

Both filings were initiated by former church member, long-time Scientologist, Jim Fonda.

In our article posted on October 25, 2015, entitled Breaking the Monopoly, we indicated that Religious Liberty League was involved in activities to break the church’s – or, more accurately, David Miscavige’s – monopoly over Scientology. The initial step in our program is to break the church’s trademark for the word Scientology.

We consider it a fundamental right that all persons who desire to practice the religion of Scientology are free to do so – and call it Scientology! A fundamental right is inalienable. It is not granted to one by the state or by an institution or by any mortal person. And therefore, it cannot be abridged by any agency less than God.

That Miscavige thinks he can, by arbitrary dictate and onerous conditions, control who can and who cannot practice the religion of Scientology, demonstrates a tyrannical disregard for basic human rights. Miscavige might very well expect the courts to uphold what the government itself is prohibited from doing under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. If so, we are prepared to prove him wrong.

Obviously, we will not publicly reveal the complete plans and strategies. We will report, however, that we expect the articles of incorporation for the First Independent Church of Scientology (FICofS) to be filed in February 2016. A period of establishment will follow, including surveys, recruitment, and so on. FICofS intends to reach out to the field, grant a general amnesty, restore certification, and license groups and field auditors, thereby giving them religious cloaking and legal protection for their activities, which have lately come under threat through cease and desist letters sent to field practitioners by church attorneys.

Imagine if everyone delivering standard technology outside the church were free to do so without inhibition or fear of legal consequences.

Moreover, FICofS is intended to become a central organization, and a foothold, for the technology of Scientology and the Bridge[1] as developed by LRH – not the altered, unpopular Miscavige version – in order to ensure that it is available for this and future generations. It will be administered with a lightness of organization, and be inclusive and tolerant, rather than status-oriented and controlling. The new church will adopt the 1968 Reform Code of Scientology, and thereby recognize the distinction between fair criticism and religious persecution, accepting and internally handling the former, and stomping on the latter. FICofS will have no fair game policy and no security checks (except as part of an auditing program in which priest-penitent privileges attach). And it will forever abolish the disconnection policy! The liberal concepts expressed by LRH in the lecture, Attitude & Conduct of Scientology[2], will be applied in full.

Exchange

FICofS is willing to negotiate with the church fair compensation for its use of other trademarks and copyrighted (pre-Miscavige-altered) materials necessary to deliver standard Scientology services and, if an impasse is reached, to submit the issue to independent mediation. * * * *

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Reconciliation

FICofS is willing to enter into negotiations for reconciliation with the church, now or in the future. The proposed guidelines for reconciliation are as follows:

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The First Independent Church of Scientology.
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END NOTES:
[1] The “Bridge” is a chart that lists the various training and auditing levels of Scientology.
[2] 4th London ACC, 3 November 1955.
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Did you feel that? It's the forthcoming lulzfest.
 

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Churchill

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If the first independent church of scientology manages to obtain 501C-3 status, would that make it easier or more difficult for the IRS to review/rescind cos and related entities tax exempt status?
 

CommunicatorIC

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If the first independent church of scientology manages to obtain 501C-3 status, would that make it easier or more difficult for the IRS to review/rescind cos and related entities tax exempt status?
If the IRS grants 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology, it would make it more difficult for the IRS to rescind COS and related entities on the ground that Scientology is not a religion.

If the IRS grants 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology, it would have no effect on the ability of the IRS to rescind COS and related entities on other grounds (e.g., improper inurement, accumulation of assets, etc.).

If the IRS denies 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology on the ground Scientology is not a religion, that would raise a major equal protection issue and, indeed, a shit-storm.

If the IRS denies 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology on other grounds (e.g., improper inurement, accumulation of assets, etc.), that would not effect the 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status COS or related entities.

My prediction is that if, or likely when, the First Independent Church of Scientology applies for 501(c)(3) status the IRS will continue to accept that Scientology is a religion, but carefully consider whether the FICS satisfies the other requirements (e.g., no improper inurement).

I am NOT saying that the IRS SHOULD again determine that Scientology is a religion. I am predicting that it WILL do so to avoid being attacked for being inconsistent, avoid major litigation with the COS, etc.

Quite frankly, the easiest and safest thing for the IRS to do is to grant 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology as long as they do not screw up their application, finances, accounting, etc.
 
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