Anonycat
Crusader
Why haell, that was one darn incident.
In 80,465,007,203 years from now, you made a bad joke, and I'm not sure I want to be your friend now.
Why haell, that was one darn incident.
I think it is spelled "Cayce".
I have to disagree with your opinion of him.
It's interesting that Cayce hypnotized himself in order to access his Abilities. I thought that LRH did precisely the same thing with writing .
There has been several takes on past lifes in this thread. So here's mine:
I did spend a lot of expensive hours on rudiments, Dianetic auditing etc in the seventies.
And most of those auditing hours where spent on past lifes. At that time it seemed strange and awkward to me to plough through all those "memories of past existence". But using coaxing and having the authority of using the scientific artifact, the auditor got me "into it" and I found myself exploring the seamingly endless number of past lifes. At that time it became a part of the general jargon amongst my fellow scientologists to refer to and to know the "reality" of past lifes. And oh yes, at times the "quality of re-experiencing" the forgotten lifes was quite clear and emotional which locked my position that this tech was effectively doing a miraculous job.
But that was then and now is now. I'm convinced the past life tech is addressing the imaginative capability of a person and hypnotic suggestions is used to have him find whatever could be imagined. The metering brings two things into the "religious therapy" - 1) A sense of precise scientificness (a placebo booster) and 2) a false way of entering a persons inner life. The memories accessed by Hubbards "tech approach" were useless because they were synthetic episodes, and the so-called EP, usually expected to result in a happy halleluja moment but the life enrichment didn't last very long. And that's my point about Hubbards "tech" - It maybe got you high for a day or two, but then you needed to come back for more expensive dope.
I don't believe in past lifes, UFOs, psychic powers, paranormal phenomena etc. I don't believe in miracles except for this wonderful universe and the capacity of life to evolve into complexities like homo sapiens, arts and science. We could say we are part of universe exploring itself.
Perhaps Phenom...
But I'd say that their inner motives were totally opposite
If my recall serve I understood that Cayce was going into a state ressembling hypnosis and was very humble since he nerver refered to it as of abilities..but view it as being a transmission channel. (he was doing ''reading'' of people's energies, past lives and medical problems and giving natural prescriptions to heal)
Although I don't have any opinion on this phenomanon.
Concerning Hubtard...I don't think he had those same motivations of sincerely trying to help...
His use of hypnosis, was really to become a super human.
My thought is that he was in the field of self-serving interests.
(The admissions can serve as a blattant proof of his true motive)
What he wrote , IMHO, was a body of policies to rule people's life, to lecture people on life and pseud-sanity through his own paranoid, lunatic sociopathic mind, and thus, to ensure he, and his cult, would become the world rulers and make lot of $$$. His pseudo technical bulletins ??? Pfit..... garbage as far as I am concern. Shall be recycled in toilet paper since it has 0 scientific value and been wrote by a sociopath narcissist pathological liar who had no concern about mankind other that ''shall be my slaves''
Unfortunately, what may have been of interest was not at all from his work....
Although I respect any view that may differ from mine.
Correct. Atheism is not a religion ... but it is a religious opinion. If you have an opinion about "God", that is a religious subject. You might also note that neither "theism" nor "agnosticism" are religions either but are, obviously, also religious opinions.No... atheism is not a religion. A religion is a system of belief. Many atheists have a religion, whether Buddhist, or Wicca, or Subgenius, or whatever, but atheism itself is not a religion.
Atheism in itself doesn't tell you what a person believes. For that, you need to ask them. But I guess that's too much to ask for?? Give me a break.
Why haell, that was one darn incident.
You're not from the sayouth are you by any chance oneone?
"Theism" and "agnosticism" also say nothing about what else a person believes. The same goes for an infinite number of other labels. Thank you Captain Obvious.
Yes. In a past life...
...on this planet.
I'm an atheist now.
I don't believe in super natural things any more.
Science and reason is my ground.
I love arts and music.
I hate religious violence and oppression.
I despise fake science and knowledge.
And that goes for Hubbard and his phone ideology.
What are you today my ex scn friend?
Are you still some sort of a religious believer or are you a non-believer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Te4zkbgeuw&t=1204s
Chris Shelton did a recent podcast with Aron Ra regarding this subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1jOYLweqc
http://www.centerforinquiry.net/wny/events/aron_ra_indoctrination_state/
That was so great, Chris! There are so many personal things I could add, but for the moment will be reserved. Could you please post his book tour dates that go with the locations he mentioned. I'd like to attend one or two.
Thank you again.
You might also watch for Matt Dillahunty who has also done presentations and debates on the same topics & subtopics.