Programmer-Guy wrote:
Nice to see you giving your contribution a nice big Green Smile there, PG. That Edwin Hutchins quote had me read and re-read it as it is somewhat ambiguously written: it took me a bit of doodling to see what the final “it” was in the quote . . . and the quote is not in his wiki.
But it is a brilliant quote you have chosen as, of course, “human cognition” (awareness) is affected by the complex sociocultural world it is situated in. And that is precisely why folks have and/or exhibit the variations and even the limitations of perception they display.
Mimsey wrote:
Mimsey, I’ve read only some of the Pilot’s stuff . . . I know Alan did it all.
Yes, the interesting thing is, as noted above, different folks have different experiences and levels of awareness and also different perceptions to each other when they “exteriorize” . . . and to be noted is the fact that there are a lot of things an individual can exteriorize from, examples: the body, the physical universe, the limit of present TIME or past-or-future, limited “here space,” etc. One can even go exterior to one’s mind!
Alan described the physical universe as having the appearance of a small golden orb when he exteriorized out of it. I have not seen that nor what The Pilot described as I did not and have not exteriorized in the manner that they have or did. They obviously exteriorized to view the Physical Universe (PU) as it is in relative Present Time.
Relative to the PU, my several exteriorizations were a) from my body to be within and throughout the PU and, b) differently, to different time locations on the time stream prior to the existence of the PU.
It is to be noted that these events have occurred over a 61 year period of time. Both in processing sessions and in life, particularly at time of stress or demand as in athletic performance or real threat to life.
Alan did a definitive write-up of the sequence of “universes” (actually, as he later agreed with me, they are/were, “our Domains of Spiritual existence.”) in his book, “Gods in Disguise.” (Of which I have a Word Doc., original manuscript version as well as the published hard copy.)
But basically, in my view, the reason why folks have these different “perceptions” or experiences of what they see or are aware of when they go through these variations of the basic theme of exteriorization, is they take with them their particular case manifestation(s) and these affect, limit or alter what they can see or be aware of . . . just as we see case alters perception and behavior in PT and as noted by PG’s quote of Edwin Hutchins above.
The obvious fact is, we are all individuals and do have our individual expressions of altered perceptions, limitations of awareness and abilities and powers and such.
To be honest, it is observable that those who are into debunking these reported experiences are simply demonstrating they are denying perception . . . that is, a refusal to see what is there to be perceived. I’ve been there, done it in my earlier years. I was convinced I was only a meat body and there was no spiritual existence. But when, surprisingly, you become aware of being separate to the body and you are dealing with the PU directly . . . . it is time to get real
or go nuts!
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