Telepathetic
Gold Meritorious Patron
Kristi, don't remove any names
If I was an employer I certainly wouldn't let media reports regarding one of my employees' religion dictate my behavior towards him/her. Such reports tells absolutely nothing about my employee. Most Scientologists who I have known, and that is quite a few, were very eager to do a good job and that shines through on whatever job they have. An employer will of course appreciate that.
But I do understand that you can have problems regarding potential customers and it can be irritating if you need to tell the same thing again and again. But since you have got some experience on that I guess you are getting better on how to handle the situations. Quite a few people will probably find it exciting that they met someone who have actual been involved.
It is like meeting something real instead of some media reports where you don't know what is rumour or gossip and what is true and if it is true whether it is only a piece of the truth or a half truth. Meeting someone who actually was in it can be quite a thrill.
Get real! You clearly do NOT live in the same environment I live in. Scientologists do NOT have a good reputation as "eager to do a good job" here. Even though it is illegal to discriminate due to religion you can bet your ass it happens every single day. I'm glad you expect you would not be put off by media reports, however, as an employer myself I can tell you one looks very hard at all aspects of a person before you hire them. Anything off beat like Scientology in the background is not a positive. No one would ell you "I'm not hiring because you were a scientologist" but you can be damn sure it would happen.
What?? Excuiting? Interesting, like what does leprosy really look like? No, a Scientology background would bring distrust and wariness in at least 90% of situations.
I realise I am a bit loud and extreme in my reaction to you here but I am boggle eyed at what you believe.
Outing someone without their consent is definately an act against someone. Thank goodness I never made it onto her lists. Reminds me of the lists the Nazis compiled.
She took my name down after I emailed her. Told her I was under 18 for all my stats and it hadn't been my choice to take the courses. She was nice about it.
So who cares if a few ex-churchies get harmed by having their Scientology history broadcast on the Internet, as long as it helps take the cult down?
Right?
The End Justifies the Means, Right?
How is that any different from how C of $ OSA operates ?
They, too, think that it is OK to harm individuals in the name of "taking down anyone trying to stop Scientology".
That list was compiled for witch hunting purposes, pure and simple. If that were not so, then the actual names of people would have been vetted to protect their privacy as the publication of the actual names is not even remotely necessary for the statistical analysis of Scientology services completions history which is the stated purpose of Kristi's site.
But who cares how many innocents we burn along with the witches? God will sort them all out anyway.
Michael "The Sneakster" Hobson
I am *not* anonymous.
It is my opinion that if someone is discriminating against you because Kristi has accurately listed you as having been a Scientologist, then Kristi is the wrong target for your complaint. The person doing the discrimination needs correction, as does the Church of Scientology for creating such a bad image of itself and thereby a bad image of you.
Mac
Tricky, isn't it? I have a couple of websites listing names and I can't easily work it out.
How does anyone write a biography?
Mac
CoS publishes completions all the time, as well as IAS patrons and the like. Kristi's list isn't the only one out there. A lot of the CoS material is now on the internet.
I just keep thinking about this issue. What if the kids hadn't told their story about The Mace-Kingsley Ranch School and how Hanks molested the kids? Or it had been censored? We wouldn't know the name of a paedophile who is possibly still out there molesting little girls.
Should we be upset about whyaretheydead since it names names? Should it just be a gallery of nameless photos since someone that was "innocent" might be involved in the person's story?
Is it wrong to list the people who are on the RPF? Or the people you were on staff with? The guy's name who walked up and punched you out for laughs?
Should John's book be banned because he names people? What about all the other books and stories out there that mention people by name? Would it make everyone feel better if the internet just got taken down totally? I'm sure the CoS would love that.
Where does censorship and revisionism end? Is China our enemy or is it Russia this month? Did LRH call blacks niggers in a letter to his wife? Not according to the CoS.
It's a slippery slope.
I figured it was about time I ventured into this lion's den and give you more information in hopes that you will have a better understanding of the completion lists on Kristi's site.
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Here's my problem. My source for the magazines is gone. I need some help in getting lists for 2007 and 2008. Anyone who has magazines from this time could pm me or email me at [email protected].
Thanks much.
Patty