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I Don't Get It....
I missed this thread when it started, but it hit a nerve with me. When I first started healing from all the cult crud, I froze when I discovered this list existed. I was just back out in the 'real' world, looking for work, and had been informed that local employers routinely searched all aplicants online. Whenever I had gone out and had seen the evil yellow tent, inevitably rude jokes and ridicule of how insane or stupid someone had to be to fall for that s*** would be shouted out. Colbert makes a crack about Xenu--people laugh. Last night I caught Dana Carvey on HBO and he did a whole spiel detailing the Xenu bit and giving a description of exactly how weird a ritual a religion would have to be to be crazier than Scio. The word is getting out about the cult--but folks think people were nuts to get pulled into that bs. I'm a billion times better now and have no problem chatting and telling the truth about the evil--but I'm happier than hell that an employer won't find me there. I prefer to deal with it on my own terms. Potential employers don't get to know I was a victim of rape...so...? My surviving the cult makes me less naive and I can spot bs better than most now--but, that's not the impression someone would get by seeing me as an ex-cultie and dismissing me beforehand.
Now, as far as the statistic accuracy of the data base, I seriously queston it, so I don't think I fully understand its purpose. I was a trained auditor, yet my only listing was being clear under my (very common) maiden name. Cursory checks of people I knew from different orgs failed to show them at all. If the lists are only being taken from the upper organization lists, then all the completions listed only in the local organization mags aren't showing up. If the data isn't gathered from all the local organization and mission mags, then there is missing data. Add to that times when staff or funds were down or there was some other reason the mag didn't go out-i don't know how this possibly gives an accurate picture. With CCRDS being done at local orgs during those years covered by the data base, people I know who attested to Clear did not show up. Staff are so busy trying to get stats up that the last thing anyone cares about sometimes is the completion list. I remember a pc in the HGC who was upset because he wasn't showing up on the lists so a special effort was made to make sure he was listed. We were all shocked somone actually read the effing mag.
Now, though it might sound all rosy for the cult-the list of names also covers another dirty secret that makes the picture cloudy. In the giant heydays of massive Clear attests...years later, oodles of those folks were found to be NOT CLEAR. Mags don't print a retraction of the state. I'm guessing that this is one reason Clear numbers aren't showing up. Another 'only in Scientology' wrinkle is that the majority of cycles I ran into attesting to Clear, the person was a 'past-life' Clear...so, basically a lot of these 'new' Clears being produced aren't new-but *cough* 'recycled'. (I gotta agree with Beghe on the whole Clear thing).
I missed this thread when it started, but it hit a nerve with me. When I first started healing from all the cult crud, I froze when I discovered this list existed. I was just back out in the 'real' world, looking for work, and had been informed that local employers routinely searched all aplicants online. Whenever I had gone out and had seen the evil yellow tent, inevitably rude jokes and ridicule of how insane or stupid someone had to be to fall for that s*** would be shouted out. Colbert makes a crack about Xenu--people laugh. Last night I caught Dana Carvey on HBO and he did a whole spiel detailing the Xenu bit and giving a description of exactly how weird a ritual a religion would have to be to be crazier than Scio. The word is getting out about the cult--but folks think people were nuts to get pulled into that bs. I'm a billion times better now and have no problem chatting and telling the truth about the evil--but I'm happier than hell that an employer won't find me there. I prefer to deal with it on my own terms. Potential employers don't get to know I was a victim of rape...so...? My surviving the cult makes me less naive and I can spot bs better than most now--but, that's not the impression someone would get by seeing me as an ex-cultie and dismissing me beforehand.
Now, as far as the statistic accuracy of the data base, I seriously queston it, so I don't think I fully understand its purpose. I was a trained auditor, yet my only listing was being clear under my (very common) maiden name. Cursory checks of people I knew from different orgs failed to show them at all. If the lists are only being taken from the upper organization lists, then all the completions listed only in the local organization mags aren't showing up. If the data isn't gathered from all the local organization and mission mags, then there is missing data. Add to that times when staff or funds were down or there was some other reason the mag didn't go out-i don't know how this possibly gives an accurate picture. With CCRDS being done at local orgs during those years covered by the data base, people I know who attested to Clear did not show up. Staff are so busy trying to get stats up that the last thing anyone cares about sometimes is the completion list. I remember a pc in the HGC who was upset because he wasn't showing up on the lists so a special effort was made to make sure he was listed. We were all shocked somone actually read the effing mag.
Now, though it might sound all rosy for the cult-the list of names also covers another dirty secret that makes the picture cloudy. In the giant heydays of massive Clear attests...years later, oodles of those folks were found to be NOT CLEAR. Mags don't print a retraction of the state. I'm guessing that this is one reason Clear numbers aren't showing up. Another 'only in Scientology' wrinkle is that the majority of cycles I ran into attesting to Clear, the person was a 'past-life' Clear...so, basically a lot of these 'new' Clears being produced aren't new-but *cough* 'recycled'. (I gotta agree with Beghe on the whole Clear thing).