OK, well since nobody asked, ... let me return a favor by rendering my play by play account of the source of Vinnie's upset!
Vinnie was doing just fine and holding his own against all the bantering up until the Class 12 incident.
My bet is that when Ralph and Class 12 acknowledged Vinnie's data series expertise, to handle their ARC or hate break, seems Vinnie was launched into a new 'altitude' of orbit and all the prestige that comes with bringing together two titians of the freezone. He even postulated a reward with a fee.
My bet is that they had no intention of mending their relationship in the first place.
But , and to use Vinnie's terms, what a crush it must have been to his 'ego' when he discovered that all the kings’ horses and all the kings’ men couldn’t bring Ralph and Class 12 back together again.
He let his ego take a chance, prematurely boasted his win. Now in light of his failure to accomplish his stated goal he now deflects his upset with typical scientological attempts to handle by introvertion by claiming 'projection' and blaming others with his favorite list of ad homs.
I was a little shocked by Vinaire's scientology, introversion and deflection tactic that he used on me on Page 1 of this thread. I don't know anything about the Ralph and Class12 incident or anything about Vinaire other than what I've seen in the past couple of months on here.
He is apparantly a Hubbardite in his use of attack tactics of introversion, and deflection, when questioned a little closely. Sort of sad really. His other tactic is to simply ignore close questioning as here: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=2089&page=3
I see this behaviour of his clearly now. Sad that an ex-scientologist can't learn enough from the cult mind-trap to engage in reasonable discusion. But it is his choice and I personally will leave him to it, to play whatever funny little game he is playing.
It's a pity, because he raised some interesting points, but appears to be unwilling to discuss his ideas on a discussion board. He, by his own words, takes disagreement to be an attack on him or his ideas. How sad is that?
I have decided to not try to dialogue with his Hubbarditic Viewpoint any more.