uniquemand
Unbeliever
My lawd, is your consciousness in the etheric realms?
my take on the i Ching is that my guardian angels or spiritual teammates control my coins. the reading seem, not just from my subjective view, but from friends also, to be spot on.
I'd like to hear about any readings you have had that you were unable to find any translation to real events. I'm very interested in how many times it has failed to yield useful results, by comparison to how many times it yielded useful results.
On this forum I have found so much helpful information from others that sometimes I think I'd be better off just being a lurker.
Anyway, Here goes... I don't find it bothersome that someone wants to make fun of what I'm trying to find out about and do a dictionary parody. Free speech And all that.
I do happen to believe that I have a vibration. I do happen to believe the universe has vibrations. Now some feel neither of those things and therefore can in all honesty say they don't believe it does or could exist for anyone. I get that.
I also get unless you live in LA it is hard to see the air we breath - yet it does seem that air is there and necessary to life.
Carbon monoxide might be hard to detect but it is still very deadly. But if one doesn't dectect does it meant it is not present?
So, for those who feel they have no vibration as a life force and there is no vibration(s) in the universe available to them ? Hey, it is your life.
Or as a dear old college professor used to say " Those who limit the world to their own knowledge indeed are doomed to live in a small dark place ".
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Thank you for bringing up the subject of the I Ching, I enjoy being able to connect with people who understand and appreciate its value, and have actually used it.
In my experience, I have found that the I Ching will take you into your next stage of spiritual evolution.
But, and this is a big but, what you do once you get there, is entirely up to you. Interestingly enough, your "adventure" may not be what you think it is going to be. But it will undoubtedly be, the right experience for you, at this stage of your life.
It sounds as though some of the other posters (CarmeloOrchards, Cat's Squirrel, etc...) have experienced this as well.
Good luck, and I would love to hear about some of your I Ching or other metaphysical experiences.
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Thank you. I find it fun to explore and ask others who are willing to share what they have / are exploring. The more that join in the better.
I try not to "sell" anything to anyone I just like to share with others and hear what they have found interesting to them.
There are people here who have much more experience and knowledge of I CHING than I do. I do hope they keep posting.
OK, then I will
As much as I appreciate and use 'science', it's not the only tool in my box and I don't use a file to hammer nails (except when I must)
I suspect that many of the same people who would object to 'diviniation' might be more open to the concept of 'synchronicity'. So, let me pull out the good old concept of 'Macrocosm/Microcosm'. Also known as 'As in Heaven; so on Earth'.
I tend to use the I Ching as a 'friend', with a *different* perspective. For anyone who has read the 'Flatland' story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland, it should be obvious that a different perspective can be handy. Especially in mazes
The same goes for Astrology; it's not a case of the stars *causing* local conditions, but, of both the stars and local conditions *reflecting* something else that's invisible.
So, for the I Ching, the tossing of the coins is a *reflection* of current condtions, from a different perspective.
It's synchronous
(P.S. Since I'm talking with a 'friend' I don't always take his advice or accept his viewpoint. I have quite a few funny stories about arguing with the I Ching or even telling it to fuck off. And the results )
Zinj
Back to the concept that things happen and we interpret the "fortune-cookie" wisdom to fit what happened:
I was thinking just the other day about the reason people have a "sag" in life after leaving Scientology, (other than because they've been cursed out loud for leaving and they think it's going to come true.)
I realized that when we are in Scientology (or Bible Baptist or you-name-it) we hold the belief that because we have this magical thing going on, we are better, brighter, more capable people. We hold the thing up as our "magic shield." I've seen my best friend do this with a picture of a saint that was going to protect her.
But when we drop that subject, we have lost our magic shield. We think we are no longer lucky, smart, strong, etc.
The way to handle this is to realize that we were the actual ones causing the "magic shield" effect due to our own real abilities. While Scientology processing helped me improve abilities, the church took credit for creating the magic shield.
How this relates to the above? I'm perfectly happy when someone is happy with the way the IChing or Tarot works, whether they are imagining it or not, or even if they are causing the effects and then because they have a certain vibe going, the book opens to the page responding to that vibe, whatever.
But I prefer to understand it more from the viewpoint of "I'm doing it." That works better for me.