Goddamn I'm fucking pissed
I told John about all this, as he doesn't follow fora, but does know some of the members. He listened, he asked questions and he said that it looked to him like Ekatherine definitely has access to Pierre's folders. Her threats were way too specific.
The backpedaling has absolutely been insane. I'm truly sorry to say this, Terril, but it's so obvious. Well, he didn't audit Ian. Oh, well, he didn't CS Ian. Oh, he didn't KNOW he CS'd Ian because Diana puts a code on her session reports. Oh, but this other person also audited Ian and used Pierre as a CS. Oh, it's ok, he's producing and freeing people. We don't care if he fucks goats in his back yard. (that phrase was actually used) Well, his wife is crazy. She made a good guess. Oh look it's OSA and people who are after Pierre.
Pierre CSed Ian in conjunction with not one but TWO auditors in the FZ.
Ekatherine Ethier threatened Ian with session data. Even if it was a lucky guess (I doubt it. Tansy pretty much confirmed it. But just for the sake of argument) as to content- there's still the fact that her husband did CS Ian and that Ekatherine knew it. How did she know?
Just alluding to that, just making any kind of threat is a huge huge no no.
Then the argumentation ensued.
Someone said that Pierre would have done much better to just say "My wife is nuts, I'm so very sorry that she did this. I will take steps to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again."
Instead, we get Pierre and others just excusing him and writing vicious shit about Emma and her motives.
It's a disgusting threat that Ems and Tansy got. AND there was a PREVIOUS threat. I'm sorry, but what would some of these folks do if THEY got "comm" like that?
I also want to say that much has been said about how this shows how fucked up the FZ is. Well, maybe. Human nature is ugly sometimes and FZers aren't exempt. But, IMO, what really damages the FZ's reputation in this are the things people wrote ABOUT the threat, after Ems told them about it. I think that's just as fucked up- if not more- as the original threat - oh, excuse me THREATS (plural) were.
For those who are whinging and whining about treatment of children on this forum, don't forget that Ems and Tansy have a family, too. Yet I've seen NO CONCERN shown for them by anyone defending Pierre.
Why is that?