Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
Just run along kiddies and keep high fiving yourselves and enjoy your circle jerk.
Personally, I try not to piss off ax murderers and teenage haxors.
Paul
Just run along kiddies and keep high fiving yourselves and enjoy your circle jerk.
You mean their 'secret material' rather than 'anti-Scientology' material I think? - We (the critics) already have most of it. - True.. There's a shitload of socalled 'LRH advices', Guardians Office Orders, Sea Org Orders we don't have. And the 'real' OT8 stuff... BUT!! - This material is not on their lame ass websites!Thank you for the links SP, but there are several people working on spreading anti-Scientology propaganda, that's to be more concise and less boring, for those with shorter attention spans. The ddos is just to get the medias' attention. If they realize that all the anti-Scientology material, soon to be online, is connected to the ddos, they may make a note of it, if they report on the ddos.
Personally, I try not to piss off ax murderers and teenage haxors.
Paul
What was it that provoked you?
I have a certain talent for doing that.
I hope I wake up tomorrow!
The road to truth is long, and lined the entire way with annoying bastards.
( Alexander Jablokov "The Place of No Shadows" )
Because it's short-sighted and will back-fire.
Just because they are youngsters doesn't make it less wrong.
This is not the way that *I* would ever go about achieving the end of reforming the destructive cult of scientology.
you are ex scientologists, look at all they have done to you, people have died at the hands of Scientologists, countless lives ruined, countless families broken up, im sure you can relate to at least two of those things, yet you dont want a hand in their downfall. i dont understand
also breaking news: ddosing is not illegal. it is simply revisiting a website a lot of times
anonymous' slogan is "we do not forgive and we do not forget" i think you two could use some of that
Did you ever hear of the Christian virtue of loving your enemy, or something like that, Yid? Hubbard even wrote an essay about it called "What is greatness?" I found it very moving. Later I found Hubbard didn't follow it and seemed quite vengeful at times, and DM really doesn't follow it. But that does not stop it being a good way to live, if you can reach that far.
Not hating someone does not mean embracing everything he does with open arms. What I find acceptable behaviour with regard to the CofS is to support free speech in places such as this message board, and give whatever information I am willing to. I am not willing to picket CofS organizations, or talk to the press, but if others wish to that is their affair.
I am not willing to help try and bring down their websites. A DDoS attack seems quasi-legal at best, and is certainly not ethical. Would I want anyone to attack my websites in such a manner? Certainly not.
The strictly legal and ethical route is to make known the truth about what is really going on. PR and Legal repercussions will put an end to most of the abuses, but it won't necessarily happen this week.
But that is my position. I have to live with myself 24/7, Yid. I try to make myself livable with.
Paul
Ignoring for a moment the implausibility of the CofS reforming, I don't see how it could possibly work out.
Let's assume for the sake of argument that the (new) people at the top of the CofS get the EP of the Humongous Honesty Rundown, and publicly admit to all the shenanigans and abuses. Wouldn't the raft of subsequent lawsuits bankrupt the SO accounts? I know that there is no such legal animal as an "SO account" but I am referring to the roughly one billion dollars they reportedly have stashed away, whatever names it is under.
It's rather like a national dental organization suddenly admitting that yes, mercury amalgams are horrendously toxic and they have known it for decades. And sorry, yes, they should have said something before.
Paul
The difference Paul, is that forgivness of an individual for doing one wrong is different from a corporation doing a lot of people wrong. Scientology, the corporate entity is not a benign force, it is twisted and evil, forgiving that entity would be like forgiving heroin.
Sorry about that old boy, but you are very wrong in your assertion here.
John
Did I sound very discouraging? - Well, that was not my intent... More like, I don't like to see these kids (if they are kids, no way to know.) being trampled by FBI for hacking the Sinister Cult of Scientology.
That's why I advice against illegal stuff like hacking into Scn's websites and 'stealing' stuff that they could have gotten without 'stealing' it... But then again, it's only exiting if it's haxored.. They'd see it that way is my guess.
Oh, they would get heaps of sympathy for doing it. The situation is like.. The people don't give a shit about the Cheriff of Nottingham complaining that Robin Hood stole his tax loot.
But authorities will not be able to let them go free!
The kids know this of course.. So why do I care?
I could be really callous.. Because if the FBI get them and the crimecult thus 'triumphs'.. That will generate a lot of press. And no doubt that Scientology will be seen as the villain in that debacle.
But I am not callous!