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I once thought that evil geniuses only existed in Bond films.
I once thought that too, then I realised Hubbard was just evil, not a genius at all!
I once thought that evil geniuses only existed in Bond films.
I once thought that too, then I realised Hubbard was just evil, not a genius at all!
I afraid I can't agree. I don't think Hubbard was ever concerned with actual scientific discovery. So, it would be unfair to judge him by his half baked theories. His genius lay in manipulation, and when it came to gaining, betraying, abusing and exploiting the confidence of his fellow creatures, Hubbard was as brilliant as he was cold blooded.
Just pull up this pdf of Robert Kaufman's Inside Scientology
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/Inside Scientology Kaufman.pdf
and read pages 189 and 190. It's really quite impressive. Of course, this passage only deals the deceptions and traps laid within the tech itself. One must add to these the controlling effect of PTS/SP doctrines, disconnection, overts, withholds, so called "Ethics" and the dizzying array of other similarly controlling/coercive techniques, all designed by Hubbard specifically to prey on those in whom he managed to get his hooks. The bizarre, Kafkaesque twilight into which Hubbard plunges his followers is itself a kind of malign masterpiece. He was truly evil. No human being with a shred of decency could bring himself to carry out such an enterprise.
I don't think Hubbard was ever concerned with actual scientific discovery.
I once thought that dianetics HAD TO BE a legitimate researched amazing NEW discovery, because I SAW the commercials on TV and TV commercials wouldn't lie.. I thought that it was something that I would find very interesting and one day I would buy and read the book.
Im glad I forgot I thought that.
I once thought that...
Method 9 Word Clearing was Ron's idea of a practical sadistic joke.
I still do
Rd00
I once thought that since all the amazing and smart people I met were SO obviously not idiots, this group that initially freaked me out couldn't possibly be a cult after all...
I am exactly with you there. I thought the same thing. And I let go of all my family due to that mistake.
I once thought that scn'ist's knew what they were doing.
It's important to me to say that I did agree with the letting go and agreeing with the "new" friends.
Cause It really is all on me. And I won't be getting anything back by saying that. It's just the truth.
I was looking for the easy way out.
OK, don't hate me, but the ONLY way I started healing was realizing it wasn't ALL on me. OMG, yeah, I was there, I bought the lies, but when I finally realized that I was being fucked with, and dropped the whole "entirely responsible for my own condition" was when i finally was able to work on getting back my sanity.
Yeah, you fucked up... we all did, and we had our part in our lives going to hell, but, NO, it wasn't ALL you... c'mon. There was an amazing trap, and a bunch of wonderful people all got fucked up by it. Beating the shit out of yourself is kind of the Scio mind-fuck, eh?
Wow. Cool comments. I've no idea how to answer. You and I are different people. I know what I know about me, you know what you know about you.
I agreed out of something not quite right.. Beats me why the others were there. I really didn't have too many conversations about the "why" with others. Cept for the saving planet garbage.
But I do agree it was no place to be. Cept for the extra cool glasses I got in the end. Heck, I think that's what I once thought...I was always looking for. lol.
I'd rather go home now. Done being a Captain Fantastic or a Brown Dirt Cowboy. <--Awesome Track! btw
When all else fails, just watch Firefly... jmho
OK, don't hate me, but the ONLY way I started healing was realizing it wasn't ALL on me. OMG, yeah, I was there, I bought the lies, but when I finally realized that I was being fucked with, and dropped the whole "entirely responsible for my own condition" was when i finally was able to work on getting back my sanity.
Yeah, you fucked up... we all did, and we had our part in our lives going to hell, but, NO, it wasn't ALL you... c'mon. There was an amazing trap, and a bunch of wonderful people all got fucked up by it. Beating the shit out of yourself is kind of the Scio mind-fuck, eh?
OK, don't hate me, but the ONLY way I started healing was realizing it wasn't ALL on me. OMG, yeah, I was there, I bought the lies, but when I finally realized that I was being fucked with, and dropped the whole "entirely responsible for my own condition" was when i finally was able to work on getting back my sanity.
Yeah, you fucked up... we all did, and we had our part in our lives going to hell, but, NO, it wasn't ALL you... c'mon. There was an amazing trap, and a bunch of wonderful people all got fucked up by it. Beating the shit out of yourself is kind of the Scio mind-fuck, eh?
There's gotta be a "Hubbard Law" in there somewhere. I'll have to work out the exact wording but it goes something like this…..
Hubbard Law of Total Responsibility For One's Own Condition: The infallible principle determining the cause of any unwanted condition or effect anywhere in the universe to always be yourself alone and never any terminal above you on the command channel. The responsibility for non-optimum conditions can alternately be delegated (if one is extremely busy, per HCOPL "What An Executive Wants On His Lines") to terminals below you on the command channel.
I'm afraid I can't agree. I don't think Hubbard was ever concerned with actual scientific discovery. So, it would be unfair to judge him by his half baked theories. His genius lay in manipulation, and when it came to gaining, betraying, abusing and exploiting the confidence of his fellow creatures, Hubbard was as brilliant as he was cold blooded.
Just pull up this pdf of Robert Kaufman's Inside Scientology
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/Inside Scientology Kaufman.pdf
and read pages 189 and 190. It's really quite impressive. Of course, this passage only deals with the deceptions and traps laid within the tech itself. One must add to these the controlling effect of PTS/SP doctrines, disconnection, overts, withholds, so called "Ethics" and the dizzying array of other similarly controlling/coercive techniques, all designed by Hubbard specifically to prey on those in whom he managed to get his hooks. The bizarre, Kafkaesque twilight into which Hubbard plunges his followers is itself a kind of malign masterpiece. He was truly evil. No human being with a shred of decency could bring himself to carry out such an enterprise.
BTW
Having done TRs in 1999 I now wonder how many 20 year olds in the US even KNOW what an ASH Tray is with smoking banned in virtually every building (at my company one cannot even smoke on property