In regards to the title thread " less wishful thinking " in regards to scn's end :
Hm, While the demise hasn't happened nearly as quickly as so many of us would like to see....
I got to look at Jerry Armstrong, Jon Atack, Brent Corydon, Paulette Cooper, Ida, Arnie Lerma, Bob Minton, Mark Bunker and so many others I didn't mention in the long line of outspoken crusaders knocking away at the chinks in the armour. Jesse Prince, Mike Rinder, Marty Rathbun, Tory, Karen & so so so many more who have stood up - and are still standing up - to what was once the almost invincible power of the cult. The critics have made it to where the corner has been turned - the cult is coming down.
And, gosh, I left out so many who gave so much to stand up.
Yeah, there are going to people like the OP who may want to poo-poo any progress against the cult and, at last, starting to bring it down.
In the old mainstream strongholds of the cult like the US & Australia are losing membership rapidly and finding new members a tough deal. Has the cult started going to third world countries where they haven't been heard of yet ? Yep. UK, Norway, France, Germany, South Africa ? Nope. Burned out. Ruined their own reputation. Liked in LA or Clearwater ? Nope.
The cult has to prey in third world countries - that is where they have to go now for more " raw meat "......but, will it work ? Sure. Short time. Works for " Thursday by 2 PM ". But will it work long term ?
I don't think so. The cult of scn is burning it's bridges as it works through country after country doing the same thing time and time and time again expecting a different result of " success ". Ain't happening is it ?
So, yeah, some are always going to come here and make less of those who given so much and endured so much to stand against the cult to get this progress in ending the cult.
Lots of tears, many lost friends and family, lots of heart break and seeing some not live through it to see where we are today.
The cult is dying...... and some damn fine people have certainly died to help bring it down.
I got to salute those who got us all to where we are - and would get banned from here for my honestly felt comments to those who come here and make less of those who paid - and are paying - the price to bring down the cult.
Time, again, for me to walkabout.