Q. And you today are an employee of a business in11 Austin, Texas, I guess, aren't you?12 MR. WINGARD: Objection, form.13 A. No.14 Q. (BY MR. JEFFREY) Okay. Who -- who are you an15 employee of today?16 A. I'm an employee of a company in California.17 Q. Okay. But you reside here. Does that company18 have offices here?19 A. It does not.20 Q. So you work from your home and then you travel21 as needed?22 A. Correct.23 Q. And are you a full-time employee of that24 company?25 A. I am.
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1 Q. What is the company?2 A. Colony Capital, LLC.3 Q. What is Colony Capital, LLC?4 A. It's a private equity firm.5 MR. WINGARD: Objection. Mr. Jeffrey, can6 you help me understand what this has to do with the7 jurisdictional issue?8 MR. JEFFREY: Well, I've only been doing9 this for 30 years. But my understanding is that, every10 witness, we're entitled to find out who they are, where11 they're from, et cetera, so that we can weigh the value12 and credibility of their testimony. So I'm not going to13 go into any great detail about --14 MR. WINGARD: Okay.15 MR. JEFFREY: -- his employment but just16 who is he, where does he work, et cetera.17 MR. WINGARD: Fair enough. I just --18 MR. JEFFREY: And in particular, I'm --19 to -- to telegraph, I'm curious about what his status is20 today with regard to the defendants in the case. That21 obviously goes to the weight of his testimony.22 MR. WINGARD: Sure. But you're asking him23 about his company that he works for, which is not related24 to the Church of Scientology -- what their business is.25 And I was -
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MR. JEFFREY: Right.2 MR. WINGARD: -- just curious how that's --3 how that relates to jurisdiction over --4 MR. JEFFREY: Well, I'm--5 MR. WINGARD: -- David Miscavige.6 MR. JEFFREY: I'mcurious how he is a7 member of the Sea Organization yet he works full-time for 8 another company in some other line of business. I just9 want to know what other line of business.10 MR. WINGARD: Okay.11 MR. JEFFREY: That's all.12 Q. (BY MR. JEFFREY) What -- what line of business13 is your -- tell me what the company is. Colony Capital?14 What --15 A. Correct.16 Q. What -- what type of company is that?17 A. Private equity.18 Q. And what does that mean?19 A. It is an investment management entity, a type of 20 investment management company.21 Q. Okay. And what is your position?22 A. I am responsible for marketing, investor 23 relations, sales, public relations, media relations,24 things like that.25 Q. Okay. And do you do that on a full-time basis--
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1 A. I do.2 Q. Are you performing any services -- let's say3 over the last two years -- for the Church of Scientology?4 A. No.5 Q. And you understand when I say Church of 6 Scientology, I'm just speaking generally about the7 umbrella of the different organizations that make up the8 Church of Scientology. If we need to be specific, I'll9 refer to a particular corporation. But otherwise, I'm10 just using it generically. Okay?11 A. I -- I would actually prefer, if you're12 referring to an entity that I worked for --13 Q. Uh-huh.14 A. There are only two that I ever worked for.15 Q. Okay.16 A. One was --17 Q. And who were they?18 A. -- the Church of Scientology Celebrity Centre19 International.20 Q. Uh-huh.21 A. And the other was the Church of Scientology22 International. And those were the only two churches I23 ever worked for. So for the purposes of my answer, if 24 you say church or Church of Scientology, I am only and25 specifically referring to those two entities --
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1 Q. Okay.2 A. -- unless otherwise specified.3 Q. Okay. And what was your reason for leaving4 full-time volunteer service with the Church of 5 Scientology International? Was that your last post, by6 the way, Church of Scientology International?7 MS. BASCON: Objection, form.8 A. Church of Scientology International is the last9 church that I worked for.10 Q. (BY MR. JEFFREY) Okay. So let me start over,11 then. What was your reason for leaving full-time service12 with the Church of Scientology International?13 A. I'm currently on a leave of absence.14 Q. Okay.15 A. And I don't believe I need to explain anything16 beyond that.17 Q. Well, you're here as a witness pursuant to18 subpoena, and you need to answer whatever questions19 you're asked unless there's some reason for you to be20 instructed not to answer.21 A. Well, my reasons are personal and private so I22 don't have any reason to expand it beyond that.23 MR. WINGARD: If you want to -- if you want24 to rephrase the question, I think you can get the25 information that you want. If you want to ask Mr. Davis
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did he leave because of anything that David Miscavige or 2 the RTC -- if you want to focus it on that, I think 3 you'll find out the information you need.4 But he does have personal private reasons5 why he left, and I will assert an objection based on his6 right of privacy to not answer a question about why he7 left -- or why he's taken --8 Q. (BY MR. JEFFREY) Well --9 MR. WINGARD: -- a leave of absence from10 the church.11 Q. (BY MR. JEFFREY) -- I was told by Monique12 Yingling that you left because your wife had cancer. Is13 that what we're talking about?14 MR. WINGARD: I'm going to assert an15 objection. I'm going to instruct him not to answer on16 the grounds of his -- invading his privacy.17 MR. JEFFERSON: I join in the objection.18 Also, the question is harassing.19 Q. (BY MR. JEFFREY) Departure from service with20 the Church of Scientology can be a complicated thing,21 can't it?22 A. Not in my experience.23 Q. It can involve being approached by church24 members concerning the reasons for leaving and the need25 to return to the church and properly route out and -- an