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60 Minutes (December 22, 1985)

Gib

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Incidentally, Mike Wallace interviewed Gerry for this 60 minute show. The Scientologists threatened 60 minutes, and they cut Gerry's part. Mike Rinder was then CO OSA US.
that's a great video. It exposes the rhetoric of hubbard and his followers.

At the 9 minute mark and few minutes later, Heber says the word rhetoric.

I always look at hubbard and his brain child dianetics and scientology from a rhetoric POV, or persuasion.

So what if Mike Rinder was CO OSA US?

I view it as Rinder was rhetoric persuaded like the rest us.
 
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