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A Famous DM moment

Div6

Crusader
Back in the days when the OT Level materials were first surfacing on the .net, 2 Freedom Warriors had the joy of deposing DM. What follows is an excerpt from his deposition.


"From the deposition of David Miscavige by Keith Henson and Grady Ward, May 21, 1997 at Palm Springs, California. Case No. CV-96-20207 Northern District of California U.S.C.A. (9th) Docket No. C 98-16994

(*) = David Miscavige, head of the Church of Scientology

GW = Grady Ward, deposing David Miscavige under oath

"(*): Wait a second, I'd like to note for the record that Mr. Ward here, said he was doing TR 1.1. And I would just like that noted here. That is probably not understandable to someone who is not a Scientologist, but it is definitely an attempt to demean the religion[sic] of Scientology and I'd like that noted for the record.

This TR 1.1 refers to a writing by Graham Berry, where he states that he will start up a 1.1 Club, including, qualifications for this for non homosexuals, is that there will be a public buggering of the leaders of Scientology. Buggering of course I think you know that it refers to sodomy and that is I understand what the 1.1 Club is. I think that's what Mr. Ward was stating that in reference to. I'd also like to state for the record. I believe I've taken about a minute to state that and I'm willing to give them an extra minute so that it doesn't come off their time.

"GW: For the record I have no idea why --

Yingling: Mr. Ward this is not --

"GW: I'm sorry, I do get to respond to that ma'am. He's accusing me of accusing him of vile words which he has put into the record, which I am shocked that he would put such vile words into the record. But for the record, I'm just looking at him. And he's the one that asked me what I'm doing and he just said this is TR something.

So of course, since I know how much Scientologists are fond of humorous situations, I gave him a humorous answer and I have no idea what he's talking about Graham Berry's and other vile words that he said which I'm glad I didn't put on the record, as he did.

"(*): Just so we have a record here and I don't care to engage in argument and I'd like the record to reflect that we've probably both been quite cordial with each other. But in reference to that, as Mr. Ward states, he has no idea what I'm referring to, the reason I was lead to believe that he would know about this is because Mr. Ward - I have seen postings from him, describing the various sexual acts that he has me engaged with various male members of the Scientology religion[sic], attorneys and so forth. And again, I won't state here what that is, but he has already been ruled to be disgusting by the judge.

"Mr. Hart: and let the record reflect that both Mr. Henson and Mr. Ward are snickering

GW: Let the record that William M. Hart is not well shaved and he looks like a ruffian and is causing a disruption of the deposition."


This is from this page.

No wonder they shield him as much as possible.
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
That reminds me when ASHOD grand opening happened, he was wearing a bulletproof vest and also there were bulletproof vests all around the inside of the podium. Is that because someone is after him, or he's paranoid?
 

Div6

Crusader
That reminds me when ASHOD grand opening happened, he was wearing a bulletproof vest and also there were bulletproof vests all around the inside of the podium. Is that because someone is after him, or he's paranoid?

Flash answer - when was that? What year?
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
Second week of Feb, 1998. I know that for sure (you messing with my inability to remember names and dates? ha ha. It's true. Only with the grand opening of ASHO, a very significant thing happened in my own life the next day, so I am pretty sure of that date)
 

Div6

Crusader
Second week of Feb, 1998. I know that for sure (you messing with my inability to remember names and dates? ha ha. It's true. Only with the grand opening of ASHO, a very significant thing happened in my own life the next day, so I am pretty sure of that date)

Thank you for the accurate answer. Musta been paranoia.
 

Kookaburra

Gold Meritorious Patron
That reminds me when ASHOD grand opening happened, he was wearing a bulletproof vest and also there were bulletproof vests all around the inside of the podium. Is that because someone is after him, or he's paranoid?

Do you think that DM might be getting the idea that people are not happy with him?

Why was ASHO/D having a grand opening. Was that the completion of the reno's or something?
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
Bea Kiddo,

How did you know that he was wearing a bulletproof vest on ASHO Day grand opening? Just curious.

Also, by "grand opening" do you mean their move to Big Blue?
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
Ha ha!! Yeah. I got it on....:cool:

No really. Actually he's not my type. I don't really like blondes, or short guys, :whistling: so he's out. Yes, I am very superficial!! YES!!! Ha ha!!!

Joking aside, I saw it because I was behind him for the speech. You could see the bulge of the jacket. I could also see inside the podium from where I was standing.:cool:

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And it was a grand reopening. The newly remodled ASHO, which occured in 98 I beleive. One of the only buildings I did not help renovate cause I was not in the RPF for a time period in the middle there (I had a post 91 - 99).:nervous:
 

Little Bear Victor

Silver Meritorious Patron
That reminds me when ASHOD grand opening happened, he was wearing a bulletproof vest and also there were bulletproof vests all around the inside of the podium. Is that because someone is after him, or he's paranoid?

Okay, I finally stopped laughing at the rest of the posts...

Primarily because he's paranoid. But that causes him to handle people accordingly, which then make them want to go after him, so it is a dwindling spiral.

I mentioned in some thread he only had once personal body guard who was an SO member. I was corrected recently on that information. While that is true, he had plenty of hired bodyguards at events and other critical locations, plus other Sea Org personnel acting as his bodyguards during events.

So, yes, he expects someone to try and assassinate him.

DM even offloaded one person from the base who, per his account, had made him stand exactly where the flagbearers would throw their flags after the opening show, so that the flags would pierce him as they came flying off the stage. Paranoia or truth? You decide.

V
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Okay, I finally stopped laughing at the rest of the posts...

Primarily because he's paranoid. But that causes him to handle people accordingly, which then make them want to go after him, so it is a dwindling spiral.

I mentioned in some thread he only had once personal body guard who was an SO member. I was corrected recently on that information. While that is true, he had plenty of hired bodyguards at events and other critical locations, plus other Sea Org personnel acting as his bodyguards during events.

So, yes, he expects someone to try and assassinate him.

DM even offloaded one person from the base who, per his account, had made him stand exactly where the flagbearers would throw their flags after the opening show, so that the flags would pierce him as they came flying off the stage. Paranoia or truth? You decide.

V


The classic tale of DM paranoia is that he demands that his water glass be covered by saran wrap during meetings :)

Unsurprisingly

Zinj
 

Little Bear Victor

Silver Meritorious Patron
The classic tale of DM paranoia is that he demands that his water glass be covered by saran wrap during meetings :)

Unsurprisingly

Zinj

True story. I used to think he must be really health conscious, not wanting any bacteria from the air in his drinking water... Pretty good justified thought, wasn't it?
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
PR Area Control!

Miscavige effectively foibles formation of critical group!
David Miscavige said:
·· TR 1.1. ·· is definitely an attempt to demean the religion[sic] of Scientology and I'd like that noted for the record.

This TR 1.1 refers to a writing by Graham Berry, where he states that he will start up a 1.1 Club, including, qualifications for this for non homosexuals, is that there will be a public buggering of the leaders of Scientology. Buggering of course I think you know that it refers to sodomy and that is I understand what the 1.1 Club is.
Have to give the man some respect for this! That's controlling the evironment allright! Nibbing the opposition in the bud! - Davys words stopped any aspirations of mine to join the 1.1 club cold! - I will NOT even think about 'buggering' him, in public places or elsewhere!

:nailbiting:
 

Little Bear Victor

Silver Meritorious Patron
Miscavige effectively foibles formation of critical group!

Have to give the man some respect for this! That's controlling the evironment allright! Nibbing the opposition in the bud! - Davys words stopped any aspirations of mine to join the 1.1 club cold! - I will NOT even think about 'buggering' him, in public places or elsewhere!

:nailbiting:

I am in awe that he knows so much about such things! Almost as if he had come up with the whole idea himself...
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Any ideas what DM's cut and run plans are? And who he might take with him?

My speculation (and, it is just speculation) is that Davey has already prepared the 'Platinum Base' off in the jungles of Paraguay, In the south-eastern section, between the borders to Brazil and Argentina, a couple of large cities and some casinos.

You can buy an awful lot of influence and even citizenship in Paraguay.

Maybe *that's* where Marty Rathbun is.

Zinj
 
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