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A nonchalant life

Discussion in 'Stories From Inside Scientology' started by ttamaad, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. ttamaad

    ttamaad Silver Meritorious Patron

    Thanks, by the way, the goat is doing great... still has a limp but close enough back to all good.

    As for the fear thing, work on building sites and you learn to lose the fear concept/ Its all be very well prepared and then do whatever needs to be done.

    Even if you are scared sh*tless, just keep on doing what you prepared for. Fear soon dissipates when the other person is showing more fear than you :coolwink:
  2. randomx

    randomx Patron with Honors

    There was an earlier one ... Olive Roundhill.
    She got back from Flag, (this was before the Feewinds,) around 1981
    Gave a talk about her wins on OT8 .
    Yes...I know OT 8 wasn`t even released then. However
    she talked about OT 8`s being able to evolve the body they wanted.
    You know grow back hair, eradicate wrinkles, lose beer guts etc.
    Just like Hubbard (NOT)

    Olive was dead within a few months.
    Maybe she had a George Romero fetish.

    As for the stalled OT sevens.
    You could say they all landed on Mayfair with a hotel.
    Gee I`m trying to count them.
    One is bankrupt and declared. TLS.
    One is out to pasture. PE
    One is dead. WC

    Any other OT7 initials ?
  3. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Can't quite place those initials actually but maybe after a while... Edit - oh yeah got one of them.
    Anyhow more initials (not sure what Ot level but some are OT 7)

    LL has been that for years but was previously LE
    E H-S went oseas a long time ago but was around in the very early years

    Oh yeah, and DP and AP (declared)

    All of these were around for years.

    and then there is/was BW and MW (think that's the surname) He was GO, I'm guessing they decamped to England.
    Also (Not ot then but maybe now?) GR and MR I'm guessing they decamped to OZ and prolly diehards and SO (actually she was Flag rep in NZ).
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2008
  4. randomx

    randomx Patron with Honors

    Oh to heck with it.

    I was putting initials to protect the privacy of
    these individuals.
    But to hell with it.
    I`m sure they were all photographed proudly holding
    their OT certificates at some point.
    So let`s all celebrate New Zealand`s
    greatest contributors to the "Let`s make planet
    earth a prison planet" fund.

    The OT7`s I know of are
    Phil Evans....incomplete
    Wally Collis .... Deceased. 28 June 2007 aged 93.
    Terry Le Seuer.... Declared... (No contest)
    Ian Gillot could be on his way there now. (to ot7)

    I guess the VD you mentioned was Vicky Dickey.
    Last I heard she was RPF in Sydney.
    Had a son Edward also S.O.
    Dick and Amy of course. Dick passed away about 2000.
    Margie Pearce deceased.

    I see Debbie Zimatore on the OT 8 list.
    Unless you were thinking of Bruce (ex G.O)and Marlene Gibson. Now South Africa.
    Laurence Bingham. Pretty sure he was old OT7.
    Eunice Henley Smith is SO in LA.
    Her daughter Laurese appears to be Miscavige`s squeeze. (Ex wife of Uwe)

    You stumped me with the other initials.

    Come back to me ten four.
  5. randomx

    randomx Patron with Honors

    New Zealand OT 7`s

    Phil Evans....incomplete
    Wally Collis .... Deceased. 28 June 2007 aged 93.
    Terry Le Seuer.... Declared... (No contest)
    Bernard Roundhill dead, aged 92, 2005
    Peggy Lee/ Roundhill Wife of Bernard...also deceased
    Mary Hobbs - completed 7 last yr, maybe 2006
    Bruce Gibson OT7 ??? EX DSA OSA.
    Marlene Gibson OT7 ??? wife of Bruce.
    Ian Gillot could be on his way there now. (to ot7)

    I`ll edit this as more info arrives.
    Thanks Sallydance
  6. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Yeah Gibsons
    And uh, people who were there way back at View Rd. Mt. Eden days, and later I think.
    Lynnaire Ensoe
    Zimmatores - Think both those guys are on that other OT 8 list. But not NZ anymore.
    Fraser -there was Rufus and his Brother who was later a CS
    And Lynn Boyd
    Marci Rogers Some were OT but not sure about others.
  7. randomx

    randomx Patron with Honors

    Lynnaire Ensore became Lynnaire Liversedge.
    Now widowed. Not OT 7. Maybe 5.
    Nick Fraser still C/S for Auckland... Not OT 7. Maybe 5
    Went to Flag a few years back but was sent
    home after not ever being sessionable due
    to health problem exacerbated by oppressive heat there.

    Rufus left NZ about 1980. He was really into G.O and
    OSA. but not as staff. I hear James Bond theme...
    Or is it "get smart ?"

    Marcy Rogers not OT 7.
    Possibly 5. Deceased.
  8. ttamaad

    ttamaad Silver Meritorious Patron

    What about Harry DeJong ?

    He was in Auckland early on (mid 70's) I believe he was in the GO.
  9. randomx

    randomx Patron with Honors

    De Jong

    Haven`t seen or heard of him since 1980.
    Glasses. short blond curly hair, short pants.
    Looked like a maths teacher.
    I`ll ask around.
    What do you remember about him ?
    I seem to recall him being an OSA spy.
    But not staff.
    Never knew his OT level. You think he was 7?
  10. ttamaad

    ttamaad Silver Meritorious Patron

    You got him in one... wouldn't have a clue what level he would have been on... I met him very early on, stayed at his and his wifes place. He was a nice guy then. Maybe he still is?

    Be really funny to send him an email :D
  11. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Thanks for the update.

    Sad to hear about Marcy Rogers. I didn't know about that.
  12. X-Member-Hooray

    X-Member-Hooray Patron with Honors

    X TTC student Sydney (for 8 mths)

    HI Billy,

    I have read your letter and it made it clear why you left so suddenly. I always wondered why.

    I was a TTC student with you and Greg and Dale as Supervisors. I always thought you did a great job. However I was always in strong doubt about the effectiveness of Scientology and over the years I have become extremely anti, anti, anti. Big time.

    My hubby was wanting to join the SO just after I had my second baby. I was opposed to this idea and the EO threatened to declare me. I was so upset my hubby and I separated shortly afterwards, after spending life savings on Scn and gotten high interest loans. Just wanted to say I appreciate how you must have felt.

    I wont rave on as your probably wont read this post as it seems as though you have not been online for some time.

    Hope things are going well for you.

    I wont say my name but I sat near the training drill room in the TTC for 8 months.

  13. Reasonable

    Reasonable Silver Meritorious Patron

    I clicked on the link but there is no letter. There is a phone number and an e-mail address