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Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by Commander Birdsong, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. if the moderators would shift this to off topic and put it on a long leash please?

    let the the players play awright?

    okay AC, here's my opening statement:


    i don't swing with CoS 'cause they pull rotten crap but the subject of dianetics has made it's bones and it's here to stay

    ron was a man who produced many lasting works of genius and was a colorful sort of fellow

    you can make your own brief opening statement or you can jump in guns blazing. it's your keyboard tiger, poke it as you will
  2. AnonKat

    AnonKat Crusader

    Just change the tittle into Auditing in itself is Good (or something like that)

  3. In present time

    In present time Gold Meritorious Patron

    I really like that docu. The church would nuke these guys if they could get at them. Weird, isn't it?
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
  4. Adam7986

    Adam7986 Declared SP

    If you are asserting something that you believe it is true, the burden of proof is on you. I believe your argument is that in some way training/processing will make life easier or make you better at things. I have asked many Scientologists before you:

    • Tell me one thing that you have done with your life that you could not have done without Scientology?

    Note that I said COULD not have done, not WOULD.
  5. hpm1999

    hpm1999 Patron with Honors

    You shall know them by their fruits.
    The emeter simply cries out for thoseof ill intent to abuse it. And thus it did transpire. Without auditing and the emeter I submit CO$ woe have folded years ago.

    whatever little good in the tech (and there is a little) is subsumed by the bad that cannot be separated from the evil use of such.

    Qnd I will hear about Indie and free one etc- but I submit that this free one exists only because of the evil of CO$ auditing. No auditing abuse no MR. No evil pyscotic LrH no indie.
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2013
  6. Adam7986

    Adam7986 Declared SP

    Like what?
  7. AnonKat

    AnonKat Crusader

    David Mayo Non metered Auditing February 8,1986 scientology (
  8. hpm1999

    hpm1999 Patron with Honors

    And thank you for shooting a missle at the "what is true for you is true blarney". That is a load of cobblers for sure, because could state abusing underage girls is true religion for me" and what would be the defense of such.

    Of course officially CO$ takes this position- but disregard it or twist to such:
    "what is true for Me is true for me and what is true for me is also true for you"
  9. adam

    take a look at one of my write ups of the time i spent with my best pal as he died of cancer


    just by the way...

    this thread was prompted by some back and forth between between AC and i on the scientific eligion thread, posts 27-32 yesterday

    i guess he wants us to rev up our harley's and pop some wheelies on the back forty

    all are welcome!
  10. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    That's pretty general, so why don't you say why an unscientific, not reproducible auditing has good results, and something that has proven to damage people is good. Saying Auditing is good, is like saying you were in a car wreck and 2 people died, but you swear that since, the radio has never worked so well - or so it seems.
  11. maybe you could get your grandmother to adjust your hearing aid AC

    and why would i say that?

    dianetics basically made it's bones as a science in 1950 when dmsmh was published and people read it, did it and produced similar results

    more to come soon...
  12. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    My uncle tried it in 1950 and didn't think much of it. I guess that makes me a Legacy.
  13. hpm1999

    hpm1999 Patron with Honors

    I stand corrected: hardly any.
  14. AnonKat

    AnonKat Crusader

  15. yeah...

    i used up my hour on the library computer an now i'm on the 15 minute express computers

    so anyway...

    i have never ever produced any harmful result from any auditing i have ever done

    gotten no result sometimes, never any negative result

    as it happens, it is alleged CoS does some "reverse auditing" sometimes and you bet a sweet mountain turtle you can fuck someone up with reverse auditing. as ron noted in dmsmh. it's hot stuff chum and if you want to make weapons grade psychological practices out of ron's work it can be done

    i don't

    and i won"t
  16. Auditor's Toad

    Auditor's Toad Clear as Mud

    If dianetics worked ( and it really doesn't ) would there not be people flocking to it ?

    Hint : have you been by an " Ideal Org " lately ?

    This cure all ills " technology " is dying right before you eyes.
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2013
  17. Adam7986

    Adam7986 Declared SP

    There's nothing. Using an e-meter is useless. Walking around touching walls is useless. Dianetic auditing is useless. Auditing is useless. The bridge is useless. Xenu is crap.

    Nothing else in there is "tech". Most of it is common sense or tall tales spun by Hubbard.
  18. Adam7986

    Adam7986 Declared SP

    The definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. I think that this defines auditing as well?
  19. that's fine. many people give the same report. some of these made intelligent honest efforts. for many people it just doesn't land on their g-spot. many people are getting on with something else. personally i ever viewed it as the end all be all it was promoted to be
  20. Adam7986

    Adam7986 Declared SP

    I can pop two pills of Ativan and feel like a new man. I can do 25 years of auditing and I'm out $1,000,000 and not a thing to show for it.