I avoided the L's like a plague. I never met anyone who had done the L's who was simply not nuts often with a high concentration of narcissism way out of proportion. I even audited some L's completions.
Sheesh.
I avoided the L's like a plague. I never met anyone who had done the L's who was simply not nuts often with a high concentration of narcissism way out of proportion. I even audited some L's completions.
Sheesh.
They still believe they have huge HAVINGNESS.They do have huge havingness-YOUR money and YOUR havingness.
I knew someone who did the l's, lrh actually delivered one of them, and they were narrcissistic and very tyranical. Just awful. I really hope you get your money back.
I think everything has a worth. I think the L's are worth about $5000 not $150,000.
I'm curious about the promo for the L,s.
If anyone has promo on the else (both past and present),
and feels like posting it, I'd love to read it.
I was wondering if these were the processes mentioned in the PTS/SP course for handling the SP.
I was also under the impression that it could be the Power processes that did this also. The pcs who had to do the alternate route to Clear were sorta looked on as something was wrong with them to have to do this. Then again it seemed that as the years went on, what was very uncommon in the past became very common in our field.
I did the L's. They felt great while I did them. Floating tone arms and all. I certainly felt less stressed etc. And I did laugh a lot and had fun and really liked doing it and i felt at the time that something changed, but as far as long term gain and from that point on my life skyrocketing and me becoming rich.....well no.
These things are so subjective.
I think everything has a worth. I think the L's are worth about $5000 not $150,000.
At first after doing them life did go better but then it went back to normal. I think that you get so hyped up on the L's that you just feel so much better sort of like a motivational seminar and then you have this great expectation of this wonderful new life. But in the end my life never really changed that much after doing the L's.
I really think a lot of this is hypnotism and you can hypnotize many people into feeling better in the short run.
I do know someone who did the L's then did all of a sudden opened a new business and made gobs of money but that was just one person.
How can you say "My havingness is WAY UP"? I would like to see the success stories of people a year later saying how much better they are doing. They never show you that.
I know many people who did the L's and are pretty ordinary.
Only $ 5,000?!
I am shocked and saddened by your devaluation of this priceless tech. I feel that you are profoundly UNDERESTIMATING what the L's are worth...
To me personally they are worth so much more!
$35,000 to be exact, for L-12 alone!
That's how much the amazing high-havingness L-12 completion guy owes me.
Oh my! I know the type.Having many friends and associates who have done the L's there is a very strange thing I have observed.
While the person attests to miraculous states of being or ability when they are finished, later on I have seen many crash in life on the exact area that they had supposedly conquered.
Just one example is a well known Scientologist who lives a very high flying life style in a mansion with luxury cars and other trappings of the rich & famous....They bragged about their incredible HAVINGNESS while they were crashing and burning in every direction financially. I know because I personally loaned them a lot of money (out of friendship) to save their house, cars, business, etc. They talked incessantly about how they could easily pay me back and create money because they had such incredible HAVINGNESS from their L's.
They never paid me back. They are still living in the mansion which is being foreclosed on and asking me to help buy them nice cars since they can't pay their luxury leases.
They still believe they have huge HAVINGNESS.
Whenever I ask for the money they have another sad story....Thus I have concluded.
THEY ARE RIGHT AND DO HAVE INCREDIBLE HAVINGNESS, AND EITHER:
a) I am an SP for doubting and not validating and celebrating their advanced state of havingness.
-or-
b) I need to do the L's to get MY havingness up so I can HAVE getting repaid.
I cannot think of any other scenarios, am I missing something?
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There was a process for sp's. The command was, "From where could you communicate with a victim?"
I don't buy this.There is a curious and very subtle paradox in the L's results. It is the realisation that one is oneself the greatest thetan in the universe. The greatest of all. Ever was and ever will be. The GREATEST. And the realisation is correct.
But if you ever assert it, if you ever tell anyone, if you ever present to others that such a thing is true, then you instantly lose it and it will recoil upon you. And then you will soon be stuck in the lower and degraded harmonic of being narcisistic.
It is a very curious state. I'm not going to go into too much description of this because words confuse the issue. One needs to just grasp it. It has to do with the three "univereses > My universe, your universe, and the agreed upon universe. Ultimately one realises that there is only one's own universe, and nothing else.
People on the Ls sometimes get blown to pieces by this realisation. They lose it and start to dramatise it and assume some sort of "status" with regard to others. Then they instantly lose it.
It's very subtle.
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There was a process for sp's. The command was, "From where could you communicate with a victim?"