Yes, Wendell! They had just got married when I joined Tours. She gained so much kudos from that 2D that she was like the D/CO Tours even though she was a fairly new Reg herself. Mind you, to be fair, she was pretty good at making GI I seem to recall. But she was so much higher ont eh totem pole than long term reges like Sue McClintoch, her hubby, John Dunstan, Michelle etc. It was really clear she used her connection 100% of the time. Julie and I never exactly got on, it seems Steve's taste hasn't changed much (ooh, ow, that is so bitchy myself I can't believe it, obviously still got some upset with Julie.) Oh, and I only met Fleur a couple of times and I have no idea if she was a bitch or not. And Julie, since you're out now, maybe I should give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it was the environment.