The Oracle
Gold Meritorious Patron
First, I have to share an L.R.H quote with you, then my own thoughts.
I know when one falls into this hall called the twilight zone one cannot escape the fascination with it until one comes to terms with certain mystery.
It is hard to turn your back on the adventure of a lifetime. It is hard to move on if not impossible from an interest in this subject called Scientology and the people in it.
Because there is a lot of truth within the threads of this culture, and I believe Scientology is a culture.
I think this quote defines one of the basic tenants for this culture and explains much of what we see in the Sea Org:
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S W E E T N E S S A N D L I G H T
FORCE - PART 2
"Get this because I probably won't ever say it again. He's only bogging on force because he believes that everything is sweetness and beauty and light on the part of everybody else's intentions but his.
Everybody's got to love everybody and there's got to be a friendly atmosphere, and he's so convinced that these are the factors which exist, he doesn't dare use force.
No weapon has been as thoroughly suborned to the edict of Man as this weapon called love. There is hardly anybody in the societies of Man today who sufficiently understands this word love, that does other than to use it as a trap.
"Love" is something a person has been convinced of compulsively by other-determinism.
There are levels that are way on up from there, and there is no armor more shining and less dentable than an armor of beauty, faith, trust, love - but you've got to be able to back it up with force. Any time you think you're perfectly free to use all these things in an absence of force, you just might as well go cut your throat, quick".
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I think about a culture without love or regard for love and there have been many of them that stepped aside from this phenomena. I believe a culture with other priorities can still be valuable.
But I don't know if there would be an entire civilization without it. I don't think there would be art or music or books, as these ventures are created by people with a love for it. I don't know if there would be any children born without it.
And I don't know if the Sea Org as a culture will survive without it.
But doctors can function at healing patients without loving them or even caring about anything beyond making their next mortgage payment, so I think the Sea Org can go on healing pushing the "love weapon" out of its midst.
But I don't know if people themselves can really survive without it.
Certainly the people in the Sea Org love the idea of mattering, being proud, and saving mankind. Otherwise why would they make so many sacrifices? They must love something about the Sea Org? I did when I was there, mainly the other people.
Just thought I would toss this out and see what others are thinking about these this thing that is love and about cultures that live without it?
Is it really possible to be somewhere and not love what you are doing or where you are?
Maybe some of the people there love feeling important?
I was there because I loved the feeling that I was going to matter to the world, and because I loved the people there and wanted to help them. It was because of my love for mankind and the Earth and the people.
Curious as to if anyone was there on terms of love and what you loved about being in the Sea Org, or on staff or just being part of the game.
I know when one falls into this hall called the twilight zone one cannot escape the fascination with it until one comes to terms with certain mystery.
It is hard to turn your back on the adventure of a lifetime. It is hard to move on if not impossible from an interest in this subject called Scientology and the people in it.
Because there is a lot of truth within the threads of this culture, and I believe Scientology is a culture.
I think this quote defines one of the basic tenants for this culture and explains much of what we see in the Sea Org:
*************************************************************
S W E E T N E S S A N D L I G H T
FORCE - PART 2
"Get this because I probably won't ever say it again. He's only bogging on force because he believes that everything is sweetness and beauty and light on the part of everybody else's intentions but his.
Everybody's got to love everybody and there's got to be a friendly atmosphere, and he's so convinced that these are the factors which exist, he doesn't dare use force.
No weapon has been as thoroughly suborned to the edict of Man as this weapon called love. There is hardly anybody in the societies of Man today who sufficiently understands this word love, that does other than to use it as a trap.
"Love" is something a person has been convinced of compulsively by other-determinism.
There are levels that are way on up from there, and there is no armor more shining and less dentable than an armor of beauty, faith, trust, love - but you've got to be able to back it up with force. Any time you think you're perfectly free to use all these things in an absence of force, you just might as well go cut your throat, quick".
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I think about a culture without love or regard for love and there have been many of them that stepped aside from this phenomena. I believe a culture with other priorities can still be valuable.
But I don't know if there would be an entire civilization without it. I don't think there would be art or music or books, as these ventures are created by people with a love for it. I don't know if there would be any children born without it.
And I don't know if the Sea Org as a culture will survive without it.
But doctors can function at healing patients without loving them or even caring about anything beyond making their next mortgage payment, so I think the Sea Org can go on healing pushing the "love weapon" out of its midst.
But I don't know if people themselves can really survive without it.
Certainly the people in the Sea Org love the idea of mattering, being proud, and saving mankind. Otherwise why would they make so many sacrifices? They must love something about the Sea Org? I did when I was there, mainly the other people.
Just thought I would toss this out and see what others are thinking about these this thing that is love and about cultures that live without it?
Is it really possible to be somewhere and not love what you are doing or where you are?
Maybe some of the people there love feeling important?
I was there because I loved the feeling that I was going to matter to the world, and because I loved the people there and wanted to help them. It was because of my love for mankind and the Earth and the people.
Curious as to if anyone was there on terms of love and what you loved about being in the Sea Org, or on staff or just being part of the game.
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