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Donations to the Ideal Org San Diago...Unbelievable!

Discussion in 'North America' started by bobthesp, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. bobthesp

    bobthesp Patron with Honors

    Michelle (Wisendone) got this in her email.

    :omg: Can you believe all the money people have given to them?!

    One couple gave $5,000,000!!!

    What a complete waste of money!

    Dean

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    San Diego Building Fundraising Project
    Honor Roll

    NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS PLATINUM MERITORIOUS $7,500,000

    NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS MERITORIOUS $5,000,000
    Kurt & Jenny Listug

    NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS WITH HONORS $2,500,000

    NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDER $1,000,000
    Ed & Kathy Marsh

    PLATINUM HUMANITARIAN $750,000

    GOLD HUMANITARIAN $500,000
    Andrew & Dani Duggan Dave & Denise Meyer

    SILVER HUMANITARIAN $250,000

    HUMANITARIAN WITH HONORS $150,000
    Mike, Carol & Enzo Bertolino · Armida Fernandez ·
    Phil & Mitzi Bergman
    Steve, Valerie, Julian & Tiffany Margo · John & Judy Scheuer ·
    Gary & Gail Hill
    Henry Einhorn & Wendy Farland ·
    Ben, Wendy, Sam, Adam & Alissa Ghiora

    HUMANITARIAN $100,000
    Craig & Sally Jensen · Siofra Nugent · Dan & Sunie Worrells
    Pete Kendall, Gayle & Dante Maggi · Derek & Jennifer Geer

    PREMIER BENEFACTOR $50,000
    Terry Sullivan · Ray & Sue Garrett · Juan & Sarah Arias · Dan Wittemann & Diana Witt Danny & Gerri Fischman · The Gerson Family · Monica Granados
    Randy & Julianne Fulton · Patrick & Susan Javidan · Jorge Sarmiento

    BENEFACTOR $35,000
    Bob & Pat Pierce and Barbara Hedquist · Dave Lambert & Christine Craighead
    Tom Diller · Ken & Ann Cigainero · Bill & Nancy Harte · Billy, Terry & Kat Nichols Margee McCormick · Barney Hill · Tasha Booth, Ruben Spencer & Naya Gardner

    VANGUARD WITH HONORS $20,000
    David & Lisi Arana · Mark Speros · Harley & Sandy Orion· Angelo, Gerri & Nick Petruolo
    Ken & Ann Cigainero · Roy & Carry Bridgham · Janna Schwenn · Raul Arias
    Jeff & Beth Ribera · Lisa Pezzella · Jason & Sandi Kleiman · Mace & Jennifer Richter · Kelli Abate
    Josephine Lewis · L. David White · Nigel Hoyt, Kenya Smythe & Jet Arranz

    VANGUARD CLUB $10,000
    Jane Bixler · Delphi Academy · Trina Matthews · Melissa McCracken · Steve Giesing
    Bob & Trish Duggan · Robert Cruz · David Newhouse & Diane Klein · Russ & Dolores Condon
    Ray & DonaLee Dittenhoefer · Ed Sanko· Bella Gohstat · Jason Park · Roy & Carry Bridgham
    Anne Geiberger · Joey Gatton · Gerardo Ramirez · Frani Borchers · Rune Winn
    San Diego OT Committee · Rick Reynolds · Will Ferguson · Joan Palazzo· Bill Parrigin

    ALUMNI $5,000
    The Ling Family · Casey Ott · Zvi Bieringer · Jay Kromschroeder & Cinda Dettner
    Greg & Janet Deering · Galit Kalma · Jonathan Caceres · Margarita Canseco
    Jerry & Debbie McNeely · Joe Scheuer · Jeff Pritchard · Alan & Cyndi Bennett · Liz McGirk
    Pam Hubbert · Randy Kilpatrick · Jeff McGinnis · Hayden Gerson · Grant & Elena Cardone
    Albert & Cecilia Andrade · John Glass · Craig Clemence · Jason Franco · Larry White
    Al, Diego & Samantha Ramirez ·Charles Kefover ·Uli & Mary Sommer · Lynette Hall
    Rosie McNair · Nati Romero-Ruiz · Bill Hamel · Ryan Igo & Megan Maloy · Sally Zehnal
    Ray Hutchinson & Kristina Gibbons · Shauna, Judy & Bill McDaniel · Juan Arranz · Erin Glenski
    John, Valena & Isaac Arana · Angelica Gonzalez · Roberto Ley Chin · Montana Duggan
    Molly & Sheryl Seaver and Anthony Kayser · Mike Stephenson · Frank & Michelle Lueke
    Michael Budnick · Ray & Pam Barton · Joanne Krause

    CONTRIBUTORS $1,000
    Brian Debenedictis · Ann Tillman · Sandi Hoskins · John Hillman · Marilyn Gill · Rhett Bullen
    Jimmy Bennett · Kena Curran · Dan Rust · Carlos & Sabrina Gonzalez · Simon & Jenny Baker
    Lou Gonzales· Robert Baird · Gabi Ruiz · Armando & Sandra Ibarra · Matt Feschbach
    Charlie & Jennifer Mokaio · Lia Montiglio · Chris Pratt · Robin Clarke · Holly Elzea
    Mike & Barbara Simington · Carl Jardine · Al, Leslie & Brandie Hanning · H&H Book Services
    Stan Gerson · Mark Hopps · Chris Perri & Cory Schwartzschild · Jim & Lorenda Ballard
    Myron Wszelaki · Bruce Hardin · Phil Arana · Jan Fiala · Murray & Exilda Pearlman
    Raul & Brenda Arias · Melissa Pennington · Dave Purkey · Doug Miller · Jeff Siebrand
    Pablo & Fanny Arias · Cheryl Lebeda · Joshua Hartman · Meredith Santos · Fran Watson
    Suzanne Pena · Sharon Hinckley · Paul & Abril Switzer · John Bryant · Volunteer Ministers of San Diego Pat Balvin · Ryk Williams · Richard Engel· Cindy Sears · Joe Boyle · Patti Bonchek
    Jesse & Dina Bergman · Todd & Rosie Kugler · Teresa Bernard · Ron Aleger & Tamara Bonafede
    Twin Cities OT Committee · Martin Alfaro-Franchi · Sonja Lawrence · Tere Gingerella · Elsie Harte
    Tom Hall · Bob Black· Peggy Oppenheim · Margaret Nunez


    SUPPORTERS $500
    Steve Peralta & Yenny Badillo · Janis Claunch · David Cassaboom · Paul Huth · Theresa Young Margaret Meyer · Michelle Hillyer · Michelle Black · Rebecca Mullin · Melinda Bennett · Reed Davis
    Paul Shoden · Elva Baker · Gypsey Miller · Stan & Sandy Chapman · Jamy Rogers
    Speedy Goncalves · Philip Green · Carroll Allman · Scott Rhoads · Chula Vista Mission
    Thomas Gatton · Larry & Eve Hanson · Neal & Naomi Fox · Arthur McCormack
    John & Barbara Carmichael · Bill Rhodes · Ron Feinman · Mark Urtado · Doug Rogers
    Lena Nasiri Fine · Bob & Gayle Carroll · Michael Brucken · David Badtorff · Mike & Abby Juneau Anastasia Heil · Rita Gray · Beatriz Grazida · Tina Fries-Miller · Todd Francis · Jeffrey Fox
    Irving Fine · Karen Howard

    FRIENDS $1-$499
    Arlo Ihrig · Amanda Day · Ramon Garcia-Ortiz · Tom Atkinson · Leland Seides · Don Tompkins
    Steve Collins · Jill Rappaport · Anton Anderson · Brian Campbell · Rolando Hernandez
    Sophia Switzer · Alejandra Ruiz · Thomas Gatton, Sr. · Sergio Ruiz · Ellan Porter
    Seth & Megan Webber · Mike & Joyce Cook · Mark Schwartz · Matthew Marsh
    Robert & Dana Jackson · Arturo Martinez · Patrick Clouden · David & Andrea Kluge · Linda Aldrete Lewis & Trish Bass Thomas Fay · Johanna Hill · Doug Parent · Jeff & Tina Pearlman · Alison Williams Ryan Griffin Kathy Kasar · Jamie Deering · Jason Madrigal · Georgia Margo · Lucy Howell
    Jessica Porter · Martin Trevino ·Caty Konigsberg · Arias Magic Pens · Penny Hamel · Jayde Ireland Lingna Li David Libs · Clement Ojugo · David Speros · Uwe Springborn · Storm Maker Productions
    Richard White · Steve Koochin · Chris MorrissettE · Thaigo Da Silva · Ajay Aiyar · Terry Hobbs
    Lee Geer · Jim Kalergis · Megan Costa · Mariana Cisneros · Aurum Caffin
    David Stephens · Paul Nolan · Diane Purkey · Sandra Raygoza · Kevin Buchmueller · Zachary Miller Laurie Webster · Aspen Lamotte · David Kraybill · Jorge Smythe · Jesus Ibarra · A. Rodrogo
    Diego Rafael Cisneros · Jennifer Gerson · April Ibarra · Ricardo Romero-Ruiz ·Bettel Ross Blumer Janet Beck · Jeff Abren · Rhonda Adi David Ashton · Luis Augedas · Adrian Austin
    Ralph Blackstone · Borchers/Gatton/Nugent Field Group · Gina Bratkowski · Phillida Cheminais
    Herb Crosthwaite · Alexxes Crouse · Doug Dohring · Jason Dohring · Wyatt Duggan Nancy Edwards Paul Falgren · Ron Faltinsky · Andie Fish · Nick Flabi · Terry Garcia · Jesse Hitt · Pavel Fulop
    Peggy Howard · Infinity Link · W. Alexander Jimenez · David Kamp · Andrea Kenshole · Bernie Kirsh Corina Klepper Sue Lazar · Carl Lippert · Tony Lonstein · Kim Mantis · Eda Ela Martinez
    Pam Moniz · Alfredo Moreno · Spyro Morfopoulos · Karen Moser · Alberto Nicolas · Jerry Howard David Noel · Dan O'Shea · James Ozhuthual · William Pollack · Ray Redfern · Marco Reyes
    Silvia Ruiz · Ulla Scharboe-Peders · Laurel Schroeder · Sarah Siebrand · Frank Suarez Sandor Szaniszlow · Holleigh Taufer · Denis Tremblay · Erin Wiedner · Jeff Wilson · Matt Buse · Briar Fulton Betzy Barrigin · Arcella Cuevas · Barbara Dakin · Derrick Wilson · Abraham Nunez · Crystal Ayers ·Niceforo Galindo · Mark Maestas · Cyd Gerson · Robert Guzzo · Andrew Lloyd Green
    William Hock · Brian Klink · Jono Koel · Norma Mora · Charlotte Cook · Brian Bowers
    Wolfgang Tamowski · Lucretia Chavoya · Luca Arias · Christi Bennett · David Bozek · Steve Byrum Lisa Cullen · Ed Davis · Mary Elquindy · Alejandra Encinas · Emanuel Equila · Roberta Forde
    Harry Frisch · Connie Harris · Elena Justice · Roy McClish · Keith Meyer Susan Michlin
    My Career Consultants · Jesus Nunez · Robert Pace · Tony Pellicci · Kim Purcharski
    Darlene Reynolds · Mike Rosenblatt Gabriel Ruiz · Michael Smith Erin Solari · Mike Stewart
    Chel Stith · Angela Warmand · Wayne Wood · Damien Stolarz · Kelly Taylor · Dr. Bob Willinsky
    Ben Zarai · Maria Zubovich · Farrah Pirahanchi · Carlos Beal · Ernie Minor Lucy Quigley
    Jillian Schlessinger · Greg Speros · Maricela Cisneros · John Spagnola Jessica Hopper · Bill Booth Cristian Echeverria · Jose Cisneros · Carlos Hernandez · Pat Wagner · Jonathan Werdenberg
    Silvia Alvarado · Anne Dunez · Loraine Baritz · Karla Bartholomew · Barbara Bartolon · Halli Bovia Jonni Brannon · Paul Coltman · Janice Cooper · Patty Corday Pierre Counoyer · Liza Dalyot
    Cheryl Didear-Loomis · Farah Egli · Kannon Feshbach John Franco · Ralf Gerhardt · Paul Glenski Keith Gorman · Dorothyann Harvey · Marian Henry · Maria Hernandezm Gillian Hollander
    JC Hughes · Total Health ·Marjorie Krager · Norm Krauskopf ·Sandy Lamoureux · Dave Larose
    Michael Lewis · Carol Lindsay · Paola Lombardi · James Lundberg · Theresa Maloy
    Julie McClintock · Glen McCollough · Hugo Miller · Lisa Miller · Dan Mitchell · Susan Moore
    Roberto Mora · Mayra Morales · Linda Morfopoulos · Alan Morrissett · Sanjeev Naikawaki
    Stacey Nelson · Tyler Orion · Laura Paulin · Guy Peloquin · Laurrie Perrin · Robert Powers
    Suzanne Pratt · Mary Price · Gerri Salinas · Pam Savelo · Jeff Schaffner · Sheryl Schaffner
    Karen Singhrs · Tech-Acumen Inc. · Joseph Wagner · Colleen Weinsten · Rhoda Zeffert
    Carmina Baar · Trudy Kovacs · Aurora Varela · Luis Quintana Ruiz · Aide Dal Pozzo
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    Mike Edmunson · Hubert Heller · Lucia Mouet · Guillermo Mouet · Mary Frost


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  2. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    That's like $12 million. What are they buying - a palace?

    Paul
     
  3. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    Now it would be very interesting to see where those same people are on the bridge. For more than one reason. One is to see just how "able" Scientology makes them. That can mostly be seen that the huge majority is giving less then $500. Not a surprise.
    But also to see if these people are giving money when it could be (at least) going to their "bridge".

    Either way. When Scientology falls, they will regret. And those donations can't be returned.:no:
     
  4. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

  5. Feral

    Feral Rogue male

    Probably, and for what? An org that could turn over maybe $500,000 PA? (guess). Beats trying to keep afloat by delivering Scn tech.!
     
  6. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    It really makes my blood boil to see people being ripped off like that. Wasn't there a webpage or site that had a bunch of stories from people about how they were donating money to it and why? Someone linked to it on OCMB a couple years ago. I remember being aghast at some of the rationalizations.
     
  7. uniquemand

    uniquemand Unbeliever

    Twelve million will buy about three nice houses in San Diego. So, probably a fairly nice, but small, building.

    I think they shelled out something like 30 million to buy the place in San Francisco (which is a GREAT location). Really not that much for commercial real estate in a major city.
     
  8. Thrak

    Thrak Gold Meritorious Patron

    And just think of the good it'll do. You can't put a price on that. :runaround:
     
  9. scooter

    scooter Gold Meritorious Patron

    Is this money already handed over or just "pledged?"

    I've seen "pledged" money counted on this sort of thing before - it's a bit like the old "postulate cheque" schemes the reges had going on in the 70s and 80s.

    Woulld also like to know where the money collected is RIGHT NOW - DM's Golden Parachute Fund? :p
     
  10. riptide

    riptide Patron with Honors

    bullshit

    My name is on that list and I never gave them a dime for that project.
     
  11. DCAnon

    DCAnon Silver Meritorious Patron

    ROFLMAO!! No wonder they keep telling people the stats are up if they just start making up donations! Ahahahahaha!



    And how many people do you think that actually donated will notice the ideal org won't ever open and that the money mysteriously disappears?
     
  12. Stephanie

    Stephanie Patron with Honors

    a sucker is born every minute.
     
  13. Thrak

    Thrak Gold Meritorious Patron

    And the way they do it they don't even have to wait for the next minute. They just add somebody else's name to the list.
     
  14. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron


    I'm dying laughing here...I hope you're not messing with us.
     
  15. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Some people have so much loot they can easily afford to waste it.

    Some of the people giving money, not in the millions, but in the thousands would have had more discomfort from giving the loot to the cult.
     
  16. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

    This is so funny! So they are lying!!!! God damn who would have thought the most ethical group on the planet was capable of such a thing...

    Jeez scientology is a joke! Cruel and inhumane and a friggin' sick joke!
     
  17. Tiger Lily

    Tiger Lily Gold Meritorious Patron

    :omg: Wow -- no kidding? They're hurting worse than I thought.

    I wonder if these guys are thinking about what all this out-ethics in their PR is doing to their eternities? :eyeroll:

    There wasn't much left of the castle in the air I once believed Scientology to be, but when I read this kind of thing, even the rubble falls into pieces

    :bricks:

    Thanks for that info,

    -TL
     
  18. FoTi

    FoTi Crusader

    Saw some OT 8s that I used to know on this list.....funny thing, they're in the section that donated the least money. Guess they don't think it's very important to donate to this building fund. :eyeroll:
     
  19. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Would you be able to ask them about it? Don't do it if you are concerned about compromising your anonymity etc.

    Rather than a complete falsehood, it could be that some "helpful" person donated say $50 "on behalf of others", and they dug up 50 names to put on the list to make it look like more people are donating than really are. But in a way that is almost defensible, kind of.

    Paul
     
  20. ANOthersandiegaN

    ANOthersandiegaN New Member

    well the building the bought with that money was the old coleman college location in la mesa... the building is in shambles and has gone to even worse condition since they bought it... they claim they paid 9.8mil for it but according to Coleman Furr the man that sold them the building, they paid 20mil (time to report them to the IRS eh?) the building is huge, but the landscaping is a mess, theres tons of broken windows boarded up, ceiling is caving in in many sections because of a leaky roof, theres a sewer line that runs under the property that apparently has a leak, theres a beam in the ceiling that runs across the entire building and has a crack all the way through(there was a post put in this to hold the beam up 20 years ago, I cant wait til they get rid of the post thats totally in the way... OOPS), theres a side building built over a stream with a slab that was very wavy about 100 25lbs bags of asbestos filled floor patch was put into it in 1983 to get it smooth, and all the neighbors hate scientology.... boy was this a waste of money