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Discussion in 'Scientology-related Videos' started by Veda, Jul 7, 2008.

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  1. Mark A. Baker

    Mark A. Baker Sponsor

    Any involvement I have ever had with scientology was by personal choice. This includes the choice to leave when I concluded that Co$ management could not be trusted to abide by their own broadly published policies.

    Mark A. Baker
  2. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Qualified. Left the David Miscaivige sect of the scientology cult.
  3. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    What was the topic again? below. -snipped- from original post which has the videos.

    What you do not get here are the numerous breaks in the lectures.

    Sometimes a ship's horn would drown him out, some times he went into a violent burst of profanity, sometimes he got annoyed that someone was not paying total attention, or coughing. He would verbally abuse them (Hank Laarhuis)

    if they coughed.He would have the tape wound back and continue with the delivery.

    Listening to this again makes one realise that he was completely "away with the fairies".

    The slip-ups (DC-8 with propellers etc) can be picked up quite easily.

    Interesting that he is into the "the people will obey you" routine, "we own the planet" (Did TC use this as his mantra?).

    The sad thing is that he completely believed his fantasies were reality.

    I suppose that is one of the liabilities of a chronic drug history.

    When you see the photos of him when in hiding, he looks a wreck. This is a man ravaged by self-abuse and personal neglect.

    Clearly he "freewheeled" down the tone scale into hiding.

    Maybe GOLD, SP Hall and the RPF are Incident 111 ?
  4. Mark A. Baker

    Mark A. Baker Sponsor

    That statement just reflects your own obsessions & private demons. :)

    Mark A. Baker
  5. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Each to his own.:)
  6. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor


    Start a new thread on your wish list,
  7. Smitty

    Smitty Silver Meritorious Patron

    My views after reading about Hubbard

    As much as L. Ron railed against psychiatry, he was very psychotic and should have had psychiatric care himself.
    What I don't fully understand yet is why so many people fawned to him in the face of great abuse, and today, why anyone can continue to follow his program when they are free to read information in hard media and the internet about Hubbard and scientology.
  8. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron

    Don't be discouraged CHLNG - this is an Ex-Cultist list - and the one thing Ex-Cultist don't want to know about is:

    "Why are they/we so chronically pre-disposed to joining CULTS! :no:

  9. Div6

    Div6 Crusader

    I missed that post. Where?

  10. Div6

    Div6 Crusader

    Come on Alan, you know the answer to that:

    We just love the abuse. There is always another round of degradation possible.
    If you don't think the guy sitting across from you is worthy of recieiving the granting of beingness contained in the auditors code, then just throw it out the window and do you own thing.....overboarding, sleep deprivation, whatever....
  11. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron

  12. alex

    alex Gold Meritorious Patron

    Hi Challenge, I noticed that in your post also, but did not comment, nor have I commented on other posts of yours much.

    I have a bad habit of opterming people, and DONT want to play that with you! ( I tend to expolore others thinking and ideas in a very questioning manner that suggests attack to some )

    But I do read everything you post.

    Please post in abundance!

  13. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    Why does a person go from one abusive relationship to another? Carrying out the same pattern over and over? A result of faulty identity creation via culture, life or experience? Or perhaps a game they play over and over until it gets boring? Is it a karmic lesson?
  14. Cat's Squirrel

    Cat's Squirrel Gold Meritorious Patron

    I think they're looking for healing. For example, someone who's had a distant father with whom she was unable to form a close relationship may be attracted to other distant men in order to atone for her (as she thinks) past failures and to learn the lesson.
  15. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    yeah! What he said!
  16. Martini

    Martini Patron Meritorious

    Hank! I know Hank. FESer at Flag (may have passed away since.) He has an awful arch in his back. Terrible handwriting, too. Great guy though. Funny.

    Great observation.

    ALFONSO New Member

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  18. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    Sure strange to see myself,( Challenge), and Alan exchanging posts. I miss him.