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I'm reminded of an old, old Gunsmoke episode; some town marshal introduces himself to Matt Dillon who replies, "I'm a U.S. Marshall". Like that makes him superior. Like if he were to give the town marshall an order, he would expect it to be obeyed.
There's supposed to be some sort of military training exercise by the U.S. Army in Texas. Texans are suspicious and are calling out the State Guard to prevent some kind of preemptive power grab. (I really don't know much about this. Can anyone supply any details?) Is the state guard specifically being told to ignore any requests by U.S. soldiers? It could be the biggest U.S. vs. Texas action since the aborted invasion of New Mexico.
Helena
This is the question I attempted to answer. Notice the context of the question, which as I understood it, was of who had authority over the state guards, if conflicting orders were given. I attempted, perhaps poorly, to explain that there was a definite chain of command and all military personal are trained to know whose orders to follow in such a situation: It isn't always the highest rank.
As I recall, the "State Guard" is actually the state's National Guard. They are part of the US Military. Regular and National Guard trained together when I was in the military, it's the same training. I'm not exactly sure how the Governor fits into the chain of command, but I'm certain the President (POTUS) outranks him.
There is a clear Chain of Command in the US Military Services and every soldier/sailor/airman is required to know his own particular chain, from his squad leader to POTUS. Unlike the Co$, the chain of command is clear, and a colonel from the US Regular Army in a Texas town can't override a National Guard sergeant's orders to a private. I.e., the private follows his sergeant's instructions over the colonel's, if the sergeant is in his chain of command and the colonel isn't.
Looking over my post, I can see that, although I did phrase my answer in terms of a conflict of orders, I didn't really emphasize that it applied only to a conflict; and not necessarily to following lawful orders of superior rank outside the chain of command.
Thank you for the info. In addition to POTUS, there are several federal echelons in their chain of command when they're federalized.Each State Governor has control over his/her National Guard units within their respective states. When said units are called on for National Service such as war, they are then Federalized Units, meaning they then answer to the POTUS.
Rank is Rank in the Service. If a Colonel or Sergeant Major tells you to do something, you do it, provided it's a lawful order. A superior doesn't have to be in your chain of command to issue an order. Go tell a Sergeant First Class you're NOT obeying his order because he's not in your chain of command and see how fast he puts a world of hurt on you. I dare you. [[Red highlight mine]]
This is true. What I said before is also true. I attempted to give a quick answer concerning a conflict of orders from different chains of command. Telling HH this ^^ without explaining how chain of command works, could be confusing and misleading. Most civilians don't know that an officer telling a lower rank outside his chain of command to disregard orders within that lower rank's chain of command is an unlawful order. It's not intuitive for a civilian like it is for a soldier (or, in my case, a vet).
We had specific drills for this in Basic Training. Our barracks always had one of us on guard at the door, with instructions (from our sergeant) to let only members of our flight (Air Force equivalent of platoon) in and out. Sometimes a lieutenant or captain from a different flight would show up at 3-4am, when the sergeant wasn't there, and order the airman to let him in. This was usually an officer within our squadron (equivalent to army company) but commanding a different flight and therefore not in our flight's chain of command. The officer could be quite insistent, even threatening, but if the quaking airman let him in, he (the airman) would be in deep doo-doo.
That same captain could order us to, say, pick dandelions out of a lawn, as long as he wasn't taking us off our assigned posts (which would be a conflict of orders, and therefore not a lawful order). If he gave us a lawful order without going through our chain of command, we did what we were told, and later reported it up the chain of command. I never saw a conflict of orders other than those training exercises. Officers and non-coms generally stay within their chain of command.
'The Oath of Enlistment http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/05/26/u-s-militarys-oath-of-enlistment/
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Military discipline and effectiveness is built on the foundation of obedience to orders. Recruits are taught to obey, immediately and without question, orders from their superiors, right from day-one of boot camp.
Military members who fail to obey the lawful orders of their superiors risk serious consequences”
Article 90 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) makes it a crime for a military member to WILLFULLY disobey a superior commissioned officer. In fact, under Article 90, during times of war, a military member who willfully disobeys a superior commissioned officer can be sentenced to death.
Article 91 makes it a crime to WILLFULLY disobey a superior Noncommissioned or Warrant Officer.
Article 92 makes it a crime to disobey any lawful order (the disobedience does not have to be “willful” under this article)." >snip<
Thank you for the extra information for our civilian readers; but again, in the context of the original question it can be misleading to those who haven't been trained in following their chain of command.