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Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by Zinjifar, Jan 19, 2008.

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  1. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    You still trust 'The Tech', including the 'Sec Check Tech' and even 'flying Ruds' more than I do, and, that's OK

    But, Alex specifically said that his org is *aware* of his posting activity, and allowing him to continue.

    No chalupa miranda...

  2. lionheart

    lionheart Gold Meritorious Patron

    If you mean me trusting the tech, Zinj, not quite. The way I see it the tech is a sort of closed system. Within it's own confines of use and belief it is pretty much complete. Therefore as a Scientologist within the Scn belief system, then the manifestations that I described are manifested and are easily detected.

    Outside the Scn belief system things are very different and in my opinion the tech is little more than an implant on the spirit. Thank goodness! :happydance:

    And yes, as well as saying it was a correspondance course Alex did also say that the CofS was aware of the contact with ESMB. :confused2: Impossible!
  3. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    That's why I'm an armadillo now.

    To appear less dubious.

    Do you like my bucket?
  4. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    More than three years after I wrote an ethics report and put it in my folder that I went onto one of the entheta websites and saw the word Xenu (sort of like "I smoked, but I did not inhale"), well more than three years later AOLA gave me a reading program and would not allow me to attend the events or be on the base until I finished the reading program. When I moved to Washington DC Org I was allowed to be on course and even paid for the Auditor's training package and the KTL/LOC and a Life Repair. It does seem inconsistent.
  5. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    Heh. Can you imagine how it would have been had you suggested that 'Current Management' was 'Off Source' and that COB was a deplorable martinet?

    'Oh! OK! Come on in; Scientology is about The Tech! Not 'management'!'

  6. ExScnDude

    ExScnDude Patron with Honors

    That is one fine specimen of a quality bucket.

    Really sets off your pink scales too.
  7. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    It's not full of magenta concrete.
    Otherwise, it's fine

  8. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron

    :rose: :love11: :biglove: :biglove: :biglove:
  9. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Hard or wet?

  10. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

    That is different to being on course.
    Can Alex clarify please (if interested)?

    I see your point. However, I believe that someone who knew exactly what they were doing there and why could get through without detection.
    I have some sympathy for the "get in there, get what I need, don't get involved with anything else" approach.

    I don't doubt you were skilled at this, but can you be sure you detected everyone who may fall into this category? Does the new breed of post-GAT Sups have this same skill?
  11. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

    Aha! So he is a Pink Fairy Panzerschwein!
  12. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Look who's talking, Purple TeleTubby!
  13. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

    Oh, the ignorance! :melodramatic:

    My new avatar is Porky Pig Space Cadet. :happydance:

    I chose him for his air of dignified authority and command so as to garner more respect amongst my highly-esteemed peers on ESMB. :yes:
  14. lionheart

    lionheart Gold Meritorious Patron

    Maybe. Can't see them getting any case gain out of any auditing 'though. Of course, there was always a spectrum of degree of dedication amongst students & PCs. But the longer they were in there the more dedicated they became. The tech is set up to acieve this.

    In my time, yes I'm pretty certain I detected all SP/PTSness and ARCXy and W/Hy people. It really wasn't difficult even to detect the ones pretending

    My experience of Scn is a quarter of a century old now, but from what I've read from more recent Scns it seems the current setup is even more geared up to filter out non-Scns and half-hearted-Scns.

    Basically Alex's accounts just don't ring true.
  15. petraph33

    petraph33 Patron with Honors

    :hysterical: :hattip: :cheers2: :drama: :spitcoffee:

    Both of you are so entertaining, it is so good to have you on this baord. Thanks! :thumbsup:
  16. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Aba-dee Aba-dee Aba-I have more respect for you already.

    Porky Pig is way more laser sharp and effective than Purple TeleTubby.
  17. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

    Thank you. It's good to know that all those hours I spent searching for just the right jpg to do my concept justice were well spent.
  18. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    I think someone on this board, while on lines, could get away with it for a time.

    Really its a state of the mind of the person. If it is not considered in the mind of the person as an overt, it would not react on a meter. But if they did, it would react.

    In either case, when, if ever, it does come up, that person will be viewed as a total SP. Because an ethical, on purpose Scientologist would have gotten off evil WH as that right away, and not had to have it pulled out of them.

    It blame the pc, not the auditor. I have seen it many, many times.

    But really, what is wrong with finding out things? Hmmm?

    (hey guys, I am back! I got sucked into a black hole for over a week and took me a while to get back.... but here I am again!)
  19. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

    Queen Bea is back in town! :happydance:
  20. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa


    Bea's back!!!

    Bea - there is so much that has happened!!