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Is there any good in Scientology?

Discussion in 'Evaluating and Criticising Scientology' started by Wedinn, Dec 28, 2018.

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  1. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Yes.

    Scientology (and dianetics) is an optional study

    And the Miscavage CoS has made it a rather unappealing option
     
  2. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

    When I was active it was commonly said "you are as 'OT' as you want to be" and the basic principles are laid out in the books. As to creating or enhancing such capacities Hubbard observes "if you can jut get a person to realize they are a spiritual being you are likely to get a miracle"

    But when it come to a mind being closed...

    Whose is more closed Bill, mine or yours?
     
  3. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    I'd rather have a closed mind than let the toxic waste which is scientology get in and pollute it indefinitely as in your case.
     
  4. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

    There's some toxic waste in the materials Stratsie. I filtered as I studied. What remains is much we really can't afford to lose.

    Anyone close to you ever get ECT?

    You ever seen anyone doing "the thorazine shuffle"?
     
  5. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    Here's a thread for you CP

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/total-freedom-obtained.49275/#post-1193551
     
  6. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

  7. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    LOL, you call him a wing nut? Oh my.
     
  8. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Well, there's no need to worry about it being lost William, it's all been inscribed on Titanium tablets and buried in a bomb-proof vault somewhere I understand (although I may have got some of the details wrong). What a waste of Titanium!

    You don't have to be a scientologist to believe that ect is nothing short of barbaric either. Giving people amnesia by passing an electric current through their brain so they forget what it was they were so disturbed about is an incredibly inhumane way to treat any human being (or animal for that matter).
     
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  9. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

    It has been an interesting life and I will plead nolo contendere if charged as a wing nut

    What say thee of this honestly proffered account?

    Wing nut material? Yea or Nay?
     
  10. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Titanium can be recycled
     
  11. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    Yours.

    I'm open to all possibilities. You are stuck on Hubbard worship.
     
  12. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    You've already said you're not going to argue if someone calls you a wing nut. If you believe your story provides evidence (albeit merely anecdotal) of some supernatural forces at work then the answer to your question has to be Yea unfortunately.
     
  13. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Proof, no.

    Evidence, yes.
     
  14. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    Good things can happen to wingnuts too :D
     
  15. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Oh well, everythings alright then isn't it?
     
  16. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Gold Meritorious Patron

    I am not now and have never been a Hubbard worshiper

    I do have a personal sense of gratitude to this controversial and enigmatic figure for his work which has enabled me to do many very good things for many people
     
  17. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    In this context proof is everything and evidence is worthless (except to you) I'm afraid.
     
  18. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    Client of Jeffrey Dahmer's bicycle shop: "He always did such a wonderful job keeping my bike in top shape and my friend's bikes too. I'll be forever grateful he walked the earth."
     
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  19. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Yes, and they've all repaid you by taking care of you while you're going through this rough patch and ... sorry? They haven't? Ungrateful bastards!
     
  20. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    Semantics. You think Hubbard is the most important and influential genius that has ever lived. No matter your personal spin on it, that is Hubbard worship.

    Your mind is tightly locked to that illusion and that keeps you from accepting other, better data. But that is your problem, not mine.