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Jan 8th Rathbun Hearing

Discussion in 'Monique Rathbun' started by Lone Star, Jan 8, 2014.

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  1. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    Right on! That money that you atr spending for food, could be spent on your Bridge to Toadal Feedom!
     
  2. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    155 guests - To all the DSA's out there lurking - FUCK YOU TOO!
     
  3. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Cedillo cited...

    Cantwell v Connecticut, 310 US, 296, 310 (1940)

    He's arguing this is a Religious dispute.
     
  4. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron

    Ethics Officer ESMB
    8 Jan 2014


    cc: Emma
    All at ESMB
    All of Tony's crowd at ESMB
    OSA keeping tabs
    David "CICS" Miscavige


    KR: Lone Star

    This is a general write up regarding specific Out - Ethics I have observed in Lone Star

    Dereliction of duty

    Lone Star "went dark" supposedly on court orders :eyeroll: leaving thousands with butter congealing on their popcorn.

    Lone Star then announced he was going to "lunch" :eyeroll:. Liquidised rice and beans can be carried in a vacuum flask and sucked through a straw, leaving both hands free to type.

    Although not specifically mentioned it can be assumed Lone Star also took a "bathroom break":eyeroll:. Mobile devices like smart phones, tablets and laptops are portable and can be used everywhere. Unless they are psychotic, then they should only be used by regular homo saps, or underlings, while Lone Star dictates.

    Lone Star should be severely punished by having many rounds of drinks on us.

    This is true :yes:
     
  5. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Cedillo showed via video Marty rallying the Indy field.

    "Modern Martin Luther....Marty's five year plan....expressing the need to bust the church's hold on copyrights. Marty calling DM an Ayatollah....a Hitler.... like Koresh....a Don Corleone....a Jim Jones....J Edgar Mary Hoover"

    He played Marty encouraging staff members to quit and bring documents out.

    Showed all of Marty's books.
     
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  6. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Very heated today. At times Bailiff went toward Ray and Cedillo both.
     
  7. AnonKat

    AnonKat Crusader

    I think some little guy was butthurt because he was called names.

     
  8. BigBeard

    BigBeard Patron

    Which has exactly what to do with harassing Marty's wife??

    BigBeard
     
  9. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    35 members and 168 guests! :wave::hattip::nailbiting::drama:
     
  10. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Here's a short video of RJ that Tony posted:

    [video=youtube;LKPMPK2P4kY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKPMPK2P4kY[/video]
     
  11. mclovin

    mclovin Patron

    ^^^ increasing as the intensity of the case is increasing! :)
     
  12. Deeana

    Deeana Patron with Honors

    Grasping at the old "this is a religious dispute", huh?

    By the series of texts, CAPTAIN Miscavige has now been shown to indeed be the nasty little "wizard behind the curtain". And his "curtain of protection" is the claim that every and anything is a religious dispute. I am hoping to see this particular curtain be finally ripped away from Miscavige.

    The fact that Tampa Bay reporter Childs is onsite leads me to believe the media may be starting to smell blood in the water.

    Again, many many thanks to Lone Star for being there. Your writing is great and I like hearing your own personal perceptions about things like the demeanor of a participant, the look on a face, etc.
     
  13. Udarnik

    Udarnik Gold Meritorious Patron

    Not to mention - legitimate religious polemic such as you'd hear on any right wing radio station versus squirrel busters and mailing dildos.
     
  14. SpecialFrog

    SpecialFrog Silver Meritorious Patron

    You've seen the "scripture". Harassing SPs is a religious obligation.
     
  15. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    He's arguing in regards to the anti SLAPP motion. He's establishing that Msrty is the bully. Or trying to.

    Must go dark sgain per Judge.
     
  16. BigBeard

    BigBeard Patron


    Marty isn't the one bringing the suit, his wife is. So what Marty is, or isn't, doing doesn't justify the Cof$'s actions against her.

    BigBeard
     
  17. Adam7986

    Adam7986 Declared SP

    That's what Ray Jeffrey keeps saying and Scientology keeps ignoring it and saying Marty is behind it all.
     
  18. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I really don't get this anti-SLAPP motion. Everyone concerned must realize how ludicrous it is. What could be the ulterior motive behind it? Maybe just to waste time, to prolong the inevitable, meanwhile hoping that the judge slips on a patch of oil or something and breaks his neck?

    Paul
     
  19. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    Pretty sure they are throwing in everything they can so then later if something does not go their way they have reason for appeal. I think every i needs to be dotted and every t needs to be crossed. They are waiting for Jeffrey's to flub on something. I think if the judge does not do everything by the book, they will be able to use that later.

    Don't people lose cases all the time on technicalities?

    Its sucks but its a fact.
     
  20. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    There were similarly ludicrous motions in RTC vs Lerma, anything that delays a ruling is good, if you expect to get your ass handed to you.

    Anything that increases the legal costs of your adversary is good - after you run them out of money to litigate even their own lawyers will be pressuring them to take the money for silence and run... Anything that clouds issues, or causes confusion under color of law might also be a use of The Confusion Technique to induce hypnosis upon the court..

    Anything, even a pile of shit, as long as it is printed double spaced in courier per court rules for filings, if you file enough paper will convey by implication that "There must be something to it" ... even if there is not, much like what you think when you walk in and gaze at the bookstore in a $cientology indoctrination facility... think about it, all those books, all those tapes, all this stuff... IMPLIES

    "There must be something to it" Endless, and massive filings in court accomplish the same thing..

    It might be considered a sort of a covert effort to hypnotize the court using repetitive suggestion by implication.

    If you think I am exaggerating in any way consider this affidavit from a sitting US Federal Judge:

    Excerpt from Affidavit of Hon Judge Ideman from another $cientology case.... Here he describes exactly what is going on in the Texas case: emphasis mine

    "3. The past 8 years have consisted mainly of a prolonged, and ultimatly
    unsuccessful, attempt to persuade or compel the plaintiff to comply with
    lawful discovery. These efforts have been fiercely resisted by plantiffs.
    They have utilized every device that we on the District Court have ever
    heard of to avoid such compliance, and some that are new to us.


    4. This noncompliance has consisted of evasions, misrepresentations,
    broken promises and lies, but ultimately with refusal. As part of this
    scheme to not comply, the plaintiffs have undertaken a massive campaign of
    filing every conceivable motion (and some inconceivable) to disguise the
    true issue in these pretrial proceedings. Apparently viewing litigation as
    war, plaintiffs by this tactic have had the effect of massively increasing
    the costs to the other parties, and, for a while, to the Court.
    The
    appointment of the Special Master 4 years ago has considerably relieved
    the burden to this Court. The scope of plaintiff's efforts have to be seen
    to be believed. (See, Exhibit "A", photo of clerk with filings, and
    Exhibit "B", copy of clerk's docket with 82 pages and 1,757 filings.)

    5. Yet, it is almost all puffery -- motions without merit or substance.
    Notwithstanding this, I have carefully monitored the Special Master's
    handling of these motions. I saw no need to try to improve on the Special
    Master's writing if I agreed with the reasons and the results. However,
    with respect to the major ruling that I have made during these
    proceedings, the dismissal of the plaintiff's claims, the following
    occurred: "

    The above is from David Mayo Church of the New Civilization case including this gem:

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    Hope this answers your question DOF, arn't you glad you didn't have to live through the lesson that taught it to me?

    Arnie Lerma

    PS: "Reverse Blockade: emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person's mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the "golden mean" between truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. "
    Page 104, Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski
     
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