I'd like to hear more about the culture of the SO. LRH was masterfully in playing both ends against the middle. In some of my dealings with SO personnel, they were disdainful toward me. Perhaps they thought I wasn't doing my share or enough to "clear the planet." I must have heard the words " why aren't you in the sea org" a thousand times. I suppose they thought me a dilitant or thettie weetie? I'd like to hear some info about how the SO and scientology public were set at odds against each other, from a former SO point of view.
Yes, there is that attitude among
some of the SO. On the other hand, once I was out and visited Flag for the 1st time as a public I saw public treating SO as servants. Mainly these were wealthier public from other countries, so maybe that had something to do with it - idk.
As far as SO, yes some are nasty bits. I remember a senior calling me about a woman that was unqualled (not meeting qualifications) for staff, I knew she was unqualled for staff but someone else had put her name forth. This woman had, when orphaned at 16 done what some 16 year olds often do to survive outside of the system that's rife with abuses, she sold sex. At this time she is 38, had been out of that life since 19 having put herself through school, met and married a great guy and had children. This senior immediately stated once I said hello, "[Name] is a whore and not qualled for staff". I was literally floored by this cavalier, AND crude, attitude towards someone who acted out of necessity and reformed herself BEFORE ever running into Scientology. (Now I realize that the DM mentality was even then filtering down)
Emma, you sounded very angry when you wrote to me that you had to take orders from a 14 year old! I appreciate that info as it starts to bring a tiny bit of focus to my picture of the SO. I'd like to know something about the ranks and chain of command.
I don't know what Emma's experience was, but I too had to take orders from children who were in the Commodore's Messenger Org. The idea is that anything a messenger has to say is to be taken as though it came from Ron himself. The children, for the most part, are used as runners with messages and very often there are adults back at "home office" who originated the orders.
Just so former SO here have an idea of what it was like for me as a public person I'll make one statement about it. I worked double shifts, as a waiter, for almost 3 years to pay for OT 1-3. I reframed from movies, bars, and generally wasting money, so I could send in APs to Nicole Sims at AOLA. I lived in an unheated group house in DC. I walked home from work at night. In winter time I walked home through the snow on the streets. My feet got punished so much from the work the I hobbeled in the morning, crippled from the pain and hurt.
I am very sorry that this was what happened. It's really sick how things are handled (regardless of whether you think it works or not). There seem to be many, many people in the SO right now who have thrown in totally with being sadists and are enjoying it. They suck, you're right. If they hadn't thrown in with the nastiness (mutual out-ruds) then they would be either leaving or trying to change things.
It's hard to change things. The stone walls that get thrown up are quite solid and if you persist the threats start.
Perhaps former SO here at ESMB are waiting for Rathbun to talk about the next secret of being a high ranking former SO exec that he might talk about.
Maybe, maybe not. Some may still feel the weight of the non-disclosure agreements, etc., but I feel that perhaps it's a case of the Sea Org compartmentalization being effective. One hand DOESN'T know what the other is doing. Even in the same org.
I'm waiting for ANY former SO member here to talk about the culture of the SO. And the unwritten but understood life that SO lived everyday and functioned off of. Those are the secrets I'm interested in.
I'm trying to understand the "secrets" you think there are that aren't already being spoken of here. There are Flag Orders (FOs) that are operated off of that the general public NEVER see. They contain much about how to run orgs, rank and respect data, how to wash cars, water plants, plus some organizational info that wouldn't apply anywhere but the SO. From my experience there have been some Flag Orders that have been made into green on white policy, not many, but some.
Then there's the Orders Of the Day (OODs) that are orders LRH handed down apparently daily. These are sometimes referred to by the SO in relation to how things get down in the Sea Org. OODs and FOs often times are included for study on post checksheets.
OSA and GO stuff apparently has a lot that is super secret stuff that only OSA and the GO could see. Anything marked "Not BPI" (Not Broad Public Issue) won't be seen by the general public although much has been leaked and posted over the Internet. This Not BPI is not only for tech, but organizational and SO references as well.
There are the programs, orders and daily battle plans that no general public will have unrestricted access to. Some public that are working off of those have been required to sign non-disclosures, etc.
Anyone remember anything else?
Is this along the lines you were thinking Leland?