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Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, and Scientology

Discussion in 'Nation of Islam and Related Groups' started by Dulloldfart, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on



    He learned that little tech trick from Ron.

    It works great. Try it!

    1. Somebody has a problem..

    2. Scientologist takes any words contained in a large dictionary and arranges them in any order to form a sentence that might temporarily distract the person from the problem.

    3. If anyone has a problem with #2, repeat #2. ​
     
  2. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Kudos to those getting the messsage out and these videos up on the internet. That's the way to inform people. :thumbsup:
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2010
  3. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    This is one of the most highly trained and experienced auditors ever.
    Not invalidating others beliefs would be something expected from such.

    Note that a very high proportion of the US population has seen UFOs or even felt they've been abducted by them.

    They all lunatics?
     
  4. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    Obviously the Little Green Men have no use for pommies

    Zinj
     
  5. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    Probably indicates they don't have problems with COS.

    However I've never researched stats re Oz. For example
    how many sheep have been abducted?
     
  6. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    The way I read Karen's post.....
    The point you (Terril), missed is that *one of the most highly trained and experienced auditors ever* who could be expected not to *invalidate* others beliefs, is having some difficulty with stretching that tolerance to the NOI and their *personal beliefs* about the amazing things they believe they saw at FSO. Cognitive dissonance? So let's just become more tolerant and accept what the NOI are saying as stuff which should not be treated as a bit ridculous, or even as something that could perhaps be ridiculed....by someone......just... a...little bit. Let's not laugh at them. After all we should never laugh at anyone's beliefs.
    There is a point where we have to question our own "rules". Not to do so means we will act like culties for the rest of our lives, using only cult implanted rules. There is plenty in scientology that we should have laughed out loud about as it was presented, regardless of whether we thought it was someone's belief or not. We didn't. We actually came to believe it ourselves.

    "....Note that a very high proportion of the US population has seen UFOs or even felt they've been abducted by them....."
    This part is laughable and I openly ridicule it. (It is my belief that it is ridiculous). I like being on the outside of the asylum.

    BTW...do you think Karen's post was presented as *interesting facts about the *spiritual* experiences of the NOI at FSO* or an example of *what people can achieve with scientology (at FSO)*? or what?
     
  7. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron


    No, my post saying "it boggled the mind" was that it was incredulous and unbelievable, that in a short ten minute break from course, out on the balcony facing Clearwater Beach, multiple Nation of Islam members could jointly state visually seeing a visitation from UFOs.

    The UFOs appeared "miraculously" in their short course break, only for them, and then they all went back to course to study LRH and no one before or since has seen UFOS outside the Fort Harrison.
     
  8. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor


    I will start believing in God, I will go to church seven days a week. I will give up sex, food, money, my place in eternity,everything!!!!!!
    ......just to be a fly on the wall, when DM gets together for the arse-licking with NOI bigwigs. And if God wants to negotiate, I'll accept fly-on-the-wall, in the OSA office, watching them go insane trying to get the money from NOI without blowing themselves to smithereens. I might get to watch the suppressed shock and horror
    in the academy, the academy lounge, the HGC, at events, as the scientology public and staff realise they are holding a time-bomb but are told to be nice and not *invalidate* the ARC of NOI.

    I hope the time bomb doesn't go off too soon. A longer fuse will probably make a bigger explosion.
     
  9. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Yes that's what I thought you meant. I don't know if Terril saw it that way though, so thought I'd check what Terril was seeing in his *short course break*
     
  10. nexus100

    nexus100 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Now all we need to know is whether the boggling part is the UFO's or that they all went back on course.
     
  11. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    Did OEC/FEBC at flag in 1981 and had no short breaks. However I had to do purif as it was a prerequisite and ran around clearwater to the sea and saw lots of pelicans, no UFOs.

    However if you google " US UFO sightings" or similar their is lots.
     
  12. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    When I was at Flag on a short course break, I heard a rumor about an alien that had come to earth and was controlling Scientology. This was ridiculous squirrel data and I just laughed at it--what entheta!

    Naturally, of course, I wrote a KR.

    Then I went back to course and had a huge win when I heard on the taped lecture where Ron says: "I am not from this planet". This was true source data and I just laughed about it--what a win!

    Naturally, of course, I wrote a Success Story.

    I feel sorry for anyone like NOI who believes those crazy alien rumors!
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2010
  13. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Go back and read my post, your post Karen's post, in the order that they appeared. I don't care what courses you did. Why don't you google lunatics, liars, people who say they have been abducted by Aliens,
    and bullshitters.
     
  14. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    If it turns out to be true what LRH said ("I am not from this planet") then ALL of us ex-scientologists were abducted by aliens.

    Considering the years I spent in Scientology, I think I finally understand what those abductees mean when they talk about "missing time".
     
  15. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    Louis Farrakhan's Aug. 22, 2010 sermon "Put on the New Man" now on YouTube

    Louis Farrakhan's Aug. 22, 2010 sermon "Put on the New Man", which contains many allusions to Dianetics and Scientology, and which Marty Rathbun praised, is now on YouTube in 7 parts on the FarrakhanSpeaks channel. The final segment omits the real conclusion of that address, which can be seen on rutube (transcript included).

    Farrakhan Speaks: "Put On a New Man" Episode 1 of 7
    Farrakhan Speaks: "Put On a New Man" Episode 2 of 7
    Farrakhan Speaks: "Put On a New Man" Episode 3 of 7
    Farrakhan Speaks: "Put On a New Man" Episode 4 of 7
    Farrakhan Speaks: "Put On a New Man" Episode 5 of 7
    Farrakhan Speaks: "Put On a New Man" Episode 6 of 7
    Farrakhan Speaks: "Put On a New Man" Episode 7 of 7

    Transcript of the omitted conclusion:

     
  16. LongTimeGone

    LongTimeGone Silver Meritorious Patron

    Now THAT'S funny. :lol::roflmao:

    LTG
     
  17. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Anyone got any current news of NOI-Scn goings-on?

    (Thanks for the videos mnql, BTW. Useful to have.)

    Paul
     
  18. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    Heh! - as Marty says: "Louis Farrakhan gets L. Ron Hubbard" - of course he does, Farrakhan is running a cult too. If Hubbard gave the world anything, it is the ultimate blueprint for running a cult.
     
  19. skollie

    skollie Silver Meritorious Patron

  20. Pooks

    Pooks MERCHANT OF CHAOS