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Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking PART 2

Discussion in 'MartyWorld' started by Boson Wog Stark, Jun 28, 2017.

  1. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    Does anyone else remember when the church was spamming ARS with those posts that were just words strung together in a senseless mess?

    That's the first thing that came to my mind when I looked at Marty's blog the last couple of days.

  2. Boson Wog Stark

    Boson Wog Stark Patron Meritorious

    Marty is saving his most scathing critique for his MY SCIENTOLOGY MOVIE series, where he tells the story of how ASC troika wannabe Louis Theroux forced him to write and direct a dramatic recreation of The Hole, and edited out countless hours of Marty telling Theroux how valuable the tech can be.

    Marty also told Theroux, when asked what Mr. Miscavige was really like, "I have never known a more competent, intelligent, tolerant, compassionate being, outside of what I have experienced from LRH."
  3. Veda

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    "...They will say things with all conviction, and be filmed doing it, even though it contradicts stuff that they said years before..." says Marty in his now famous pin striped shirt.
  4. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Gees Marty, you say that with such conviction, even though it contradicts what you have said previously . . . :eyeroll:

    Hypocrite - Word clear it Marty. And this one - Traitor. And this - Betrayer. And this - Cowardice. And this one - Integrity - something you seem to lack in entirety.
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2017
  5. Gizmo

    Gizmo Rabble Rouser

    Oh my God ! How can people be so harsh about Maaaaaty ?

    Please ! Please ! Please ! Remember he endured a paddle boat in the canal & a golf cart on his street !

    The poor boy most likely has PTSD from such traumatic events.

    Have mercy ! Maaaaaaaty was Fair Gamed longer & harsher than anyone else in the history of humanity !

  6. HelluvaHoax!

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    And the ANNUAL ALLURING ALLUSION AWARD goes to......Wait! It's a tie!!

    "blog shaped" ramblings: LOL (Nice touch, that!)

    of exactly who Marty wasn't: LOL (...and now we are interested in finding out who Marty is?)​
  7. Boson Wog Stark

    Boson Wog Stark Patron Meritorious

    In Pt. 14 of Maaaty's critique of Leah's show, he goes after Jeff Hawkins.

    In this segment, between some seriously pregnant pauses, from what I can tell Marty is trying to give birth to a story about a key incident involving Jeff Hawkins getting in a wrestling match with Voldemort (He Who Must Not Be Named).

    It involves a certain weapon. After hearing the clues, it was probably David Miscavige in the billiards room with a Scotch bottle.
  8. UhLasare

    UhLasare Lurker

    Marty's newest video (Leah Remini... Part 14)

    Marty: "... Eight years later, [Jeff Hawkins] now tells the same story about allegedly being wrestled to the ground, but now, eight years later, he adds a hammer to the equation. A hammer was being waved in front of his face. This, literally out of whole cloth, this gets added to the equation, in the Rinder/Remini production."

    Aftermath, Season 1, Episode 4

    Jeff Hawkins: "And so, [David Miscavige] is getting more and more worked up, and then finally... he keeps working himself into a... tizzy, right? Then finally, he jumps up on the table, launches himself at me, knocks me back against the partition wall, starts hammering my face, knocks me down on the floor..."
  9. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron

    A lol wasn't enough.

    Blog shaped, book shaped,ex-shaped.
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  11. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron

    Jeff Hawkins published his story on a blog and it was a heartbreaking read. I think it was reworked into his book that can be found here:

    I recommend it to never-ins. It really helped me understand, not so much the terms and beliefs, but the mindset of the SO and the multi layered pain in leaving.
  12. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    I stopped watching after the first couple videos, but if he really said this about Jeff....what a giant Douchebag! That's just too stupid for words.

    Marty has created a new standard....anyone he talks shit about is likely a decent, trustworthy, stand-up person (like Jeff is). It's the new badge of honor, just like an SP declare, LOL!
  13. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

    studio-3.jpg . . .
    Oh, hell yeah, we knew Hubbard crashed and burned at the end. It was obvious.
    Miscavige and Broeker came up with the idea of the target two story and Hubbard
    moving on to do disembodied OT research. We all went along. What else could we do?
    If we had told the factual truth about Hubbard to the parishioners in 1986, well, the
    jig would have been up right then and there. Most people would have left. We all had
    too much invested already. Too much money was on the line, our careers. You gotta
    understand we were controlling hundreds of millions in reserves, the old man was
    gone, we felt like gods. We could do no wrong.
    We knew there were no upper OT levels by 1988, when we raided Broeker's ranch . . .
    third time. Miscavige was there, Yingling was there, Rinder, Wilhere, a few other execs,
    muscle . . . six PIs, me. I think that was our third raid on Broeker and we came up empty.
    We all knew we had nothing and had to rely on Mithoff to come up with something.
    Starkey, Heber, everybody at the top either heard about it or figured it out after a
    while. Everybody's job was to put up a false front and move forward, business
    as usual. Those that balked got the RPF or later on put in the Hole forever.
    Mithoff began balking about writing up some upper OT levels. Starting to develop
    a conscience about it all. Well, you haven't seen him since 2001. He's locked up
    in the Hole. You won't see him, or Heber, for the rest of their lives. That's the way
    it's gotta be otherwise it's all gonna collapse. Miscavige won't allow it. He's god,
    in his eyes, and don't let anyone convince you of anything otherwise.
    Yeah, Rinder, and Yingling, knew everything from the get go. You've never seen him or
    heard him deny it. Everyone's gotta do what they've got to do to survive in this world.
    What else can I tell you? Go read some history books. It's the way it goes.
    Oh, I'll be taken care of OK. See this seven hundred dollar sport coat I'm wearing.
    You're not gonna buy this without some serious jack comin' in. Gotta keep the
    parishioners paying in, don't we?
    They'll believe anything won't they? It's pretty obvious. They'll all believe what we
    tell them to believe. We learned that a long time ago. It's the most workable thing
    about Scientology after all. You're not recording me now are you? Good!

    Have some fun in life. Yes, it's a parody.
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2017
  14. HelluvaHoax!

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    Outstanding debunk!!

    It seems apparent to me that Rathbun doesn't believe a word of what he is saying.

    The over-the-top lying is so transparently ludicrous, one can only wonder why Rathbun is loading up all those videos with absurd, neon-flashing tells. If I didn't already know that Rathbun made an entire career out of being a degenerate liar for a cult, I'd almost think maybe he is trying to "signal" the audience that all his "testimonials" are being coerced under unbearable threats, deprivations & torture.

    Many here will know of the infamous photographs taken nearly 50 years ago by North Koreans who captured members of the USS Pueblo and forced them to talk trash about the USA.

    Nobody, outside of the brain-dead North Koreans, was convinced. Mainly because.....


    With no other recourse, these kidnapped military prisoners ingeniously
    crafted a way to "signal" their family and friends (and US military brass at home)
    that they were not on board with the propaganda photo-ops, confessions
    and "dead agenting" of America. Thus, they devised what they explained
    to their captors was a "Hawaiian Good Luck" hand gesture.

    Another captivity photo, in close-up, reveals this (below):

    So, what does all this have to do with Rathbun's despicably disingenuous diatribes?


    Rathbun's just a simple whore with a decades long history of exploiting both the cult and its victims for his own glory and gain.

    There is no longer anything salvageable, redeemable or rehabilitatable about this viciously venal cult lie machine that once may have been a rational, caring human being.

    Smirk on, Rathbun, your just rewards await you!
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
  15. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    Well #14 was certainly a big bust. Didn't get the hammer right and everything else he said was pure blah blah blah.

    -100 Marty
  16. The latest video has so much bullshit in it...

    1) Rathbun says that CNN "recruited" Hawkins. Recruited him to what? The ASC? Is Rathbun saying that CNN is part of the ASC conspiracy? Why use such nefarious terms to describe CNN practicing proper journalism? They wanted to verify Rathbun's claims so they contacted another source. That's what responsible journalists should do.
    2) In Rathbun's timeline, Hawkins starts speaking up after CNN contacted him to confirm Rathbun's claims. This is false. After Marty publishd his laterst video I did a google search and found a comment by Jonathon Barbera referring to an interview Jeff Hawkins gave to KESQ (which is an ABC affiliate, not CNN) in 2009. I decided to look up the inteview, it's from March 2009. You can see it in full here:

    As noted in the beginning of the clip, this is Hawkins' first interview to the media. So Hawkins became a critic by speaking to ABC, not CNN. More significant is that Marty's first statements to the press as a critic were published in the St. Petersburg Times (now Tampa Bay Times) in June 2009, after Hawkins became a critic. Simple chronology disproves the idea that Hawkins became a critic when he was needed to back-up Marty's statements.
    3) Marty says that Hawkins was "allegedly" attacked, implying that this claim is dubious. Once more Marty is flip-flopping. He has previously praised Hawkins' book, Counterfeit Dreams, and has approvingly cited Hawkins' statements about Miscavige's violence.
  17. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    The Robertson clan chimed in with this response to #14 ...


    Attached Files:

  18. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    My friend Jefferson Hawkins posted this (in response to Marty Rathbun video #14 today)on Facebook Group "Outer Banks" and I asked and received his permission to cross post to ESMB

    Jefferson Hawkins
    1 hr

    I don't watch Marty's videos or comment on them usually, but I was alerted by a friend that Marty mentioned me, so I went ahead and watched that episode. Sheesh, what to say? First, Marty claims that I said that Miscavige threatened me with a hammer. I said no such thing. Watch the episode. I said he "hammered" my face, which he most definitely did.

    And then he takes me to task for being "pro-Marty" eight years ago and "anti-Marty" now, and claims that that is evidence of my being a "flip-flopper." Well, eight years ago, we had dinner together in New York and I found him to be a decent guy. I believed that he was doing all he could to expose the abuses at Int. Events since then have disabused me of that. It's not me that has flip-flopped - it's Marty. He has gone from being what I thought was a principled whistleblower to being a paid flunky for the Church of Scientology. I haven't changed, obviously he has.

    And as for the fact that I voiced the opinion that he did not tell all in his memoirs, well, I think that's obvious to anyone who reads them. He was the number two man in all of Scientology. There is a lot more he could have said about events if he chose to. But of course, according to Marty, I'm unqualified to question him as I was never in his office. To paraphrase Tommy Davis, I "don't have the fucking rank" to question the great Marty Rathbun. I obviously struck a nerve here.

    Finally, I'm just going to post an email I received from Marty in 2008. I promised at the time not to make it public, but Marty's actions have made that a moot point:


    Mark (Marty) Rathbun here. I read quite a bit of your book - mainly the latter years. You are a gifted writer. I am not interested in having my name bandied about nor entering the fray as it were; and hope you will respect that, at least with regard to this communication. This is purely a personal note to you. While I don't agree with your view that the subject is universally evil, you do graphically capture the cumulating insanity of base life.

    I write to you to apologize for the incident you cover in the "gang bang" sec check involving Gerald and I. It was utterly occluded in my universe. I now vaguely recall it. I connived and maneuvered in many ways to avoid engaging in that type of behavior. When I couldn't, I nonetheless tried to report as accurately as possible the "overt." That didn't stop a particularly venal individual from converting a grain of truth into a shocking tidbit to electrify the crew with. Any other justifications? I am sure there are. But who cares.

    The bottom line is no person - particularly one with decades of tenure and products - should be treated to such indignity. I wish you continued success and happiness.


    I guess what he really meant was "no one should be treated to such indignity unless I am paid big bucks by the Church to do so. In which case, I'll gladly help piling on any indignity they want me to."

    ~~Jefferson Hawkins
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
  19. afaceinthecrowd

    afaceinthecrowd Gold Meritorious Patron

    Holy Effen Ess, IL2K...Whddever you'z on, I want some.:happydance:

    IMHO, that's pretty much just how it all went down. :yes::clap:


    PS: Pray tell if you are in possession of any other "OUTTAKES".:coolwink::clapping:
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  20. HelluvaHoax!

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    With Rathbun's ascension to his new, unprecedented celebrity status as the most trusted Scientology authority on this planet, it's the perfect time for him to launch a brand new best-selling blockbuster book project!

    But, um, not exactly as the author. . .



    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017