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Members of the Nation of Islam are practicing the religion of Scientology

Discussion in 'Nation of Islam and Related Groups' started by CommunicatorIC, Jan 22, 2017.

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

  2. triumph

    triumph Silver Meritorious Patron

    Feel my finger in the UK
  3. CommunicatorIC

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  4. triumph

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    Scientology has really messed up Dr Alim Muhammad's (aka: Muki Fuad) mind..

    Scientology would consider this mixing practices... of what? I'm not sure...

    if Muki's Universal Process Center incorporates this.. and other off the wall ..things he posts: Wands of Horus..and his Pyramid stuff...
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  5. triumph

    triumph Silver Meritorious Patron

    More wacky stuff:
  6. triumph

    triumph Silver Meritorious Patron

    had to look up enneagram:
    defiantly some weird stuff: they have an institute:

    defiantly would fall under mixing practices by Scientology:

    Enneagram of Personality

    The Enneagram of Personality, or simply the Enneagram (from the Greek words ἐννέα [ennéa, meaning "nine"] and γράμμα [grámma, meaning something "written" or "drawn"[1]]), is a model of the human psyche which is principally understood and taught as a typology of nine interconnected personality types. Although the origins and history of many of the ideas and theories associated with the Enneagram of Personality are a matter of dispute, contemporary Enneagram claims are principally derived from the teachings of Oscar Ichazo and Claudio Naranjo. Naranjo's theories were partly influenced by some earlier teachings of George Gurdjieff. As a typology the Enneagram defines nine personality types (sometimes called "enneatypes"), which are represented by the points of a geometric figure called an enneagram,[2] which indicate connections between the types. There are different schools of thought among Enneagram teachers, therefore their ideas are not always in agreement.[2]
    The Enneagram of Personality has been widely promoted in both business management and spirituality contexts through seminars, conferences, books, magazines, and DVDs.[3][4] In business contexts it is generally used as a typology to gain insights into workplace interpersonal-dynamics; in spirituality it is more commonly presented as a path to higher states of being, essence, and enlightenment. Both contexts say it can aid in self-awareness, self-understanding and self-development.[3]
    There has been limited formal psychometric analysis of the Enneagram and the peer-reviewed research that has been done has not been widely accepted within the relevant academic communities.[5]


    Gurdieff in the post above #485 Is similar to "George Gurdjieff" in the wiki description

    Muki's Is just minus the "j"
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  7. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    According to Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad and Brother Kevin Muhammad, during a Table Talk on July 26, 2018, Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan said the following about Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard.

    T.H.M.L.F. = The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan.

    MFM = Master Fard Muhammad.

    * * * * * BEGIN QUOTATION * * * * *

    Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad
    13 hrs
    Table Talk 7/26/18
    I admire him because he is trying to save his people from the judgment that they so rightfully deserve. He traveled all over this earth and saw that his people have suppressed all members of the human family!" - T.H.M.L.F

    Kevin Muhammad He also said he believed LRH met MFM..

    * * * * * END QUOTATION * * * * *

  8. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Perhaps inspired by Scientology TV, the Nation of Islam now has its own streaming service: NFA Studios. The price is only $9.99 per month - cancel anytime. Although it is being promoted with the NOI boycott of Netflix, the service predates that issue.







    Promo video for NFA Studios. The promo video is very well done. Hell, the shows about food and cooking look interesting -- and indeed much more interesting than anything on Scientology TV.

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  9. triumph

    triumph Silver Meritorious Patron

    now the question Is :did the CoS help out with the streaming services..

    the big money maker for the NOI is Saviours' day.. its a once a year week long event..
    big rental fees for the stadium hall... including the exhibition spaces rentals..they come off the top

    they encourage believers to donate to a Saviours' gift..similar to an ISA donation:
    (there's about a 2 month period they ask for gifts)

    some of the portions of past Saviours' day gifts a percentage went to Scientology..
    no real "dox" on how much..there are a few statements on Saviour's day money going for (Scientology) "training"

    Knowing where or who they purchase their Streaming Services from ..would help:

  10. CommunicatorIC

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  11. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

  12. triumph

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    Wakanda (/wəˈkændə/ or /wəˈkɑːndə/) is a country located in Sub-Saharan Africa created by Marvel Comics.[1] It is the most prominent of several native African nations and home to the superhero Black Panther. Wakanda first appeared in Fantastic Four #52 (July 1966), and was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.[2]
  13. George Layton

    George Layton Silver Meritorious Patron

    Michael Eric Dyson ties Wakanda into his new book, What Truth Sounds Like. He mentions a lot of people have been dressing up when they go to the Black Panther movie. He also writes that the movie has an almost prophetic message.
  14. triumph

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    some think its real
    Many in the NOI are enamored by the idea of Wakanda

    fitting in with what they believe...Original Black Man is God..and was civilized long before Yacub created the white devils 6600 yrs ago..

    a comic written by a white devil..somehow depicts this superior civilization
    is just as comical as Farrakhan saying the movie "independence day" somehow depicts the mother wheel.. on National TV

    Scientology Is pandering
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  15. triumph

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    go Sally.. its based on real life events.. heh
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  16. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

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  17. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    What tap-dancing details does the Nation of Islam do to make the contents of the Quran consistent with, say, Scientology 8-8008?
  18. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    I recommend you check out Dianetically Speaking, the public Facebook Group for the Church of Scientology and the Nation of Islam. There you will see members of the Nation of Islam regularly go to extraordinary lengths to reconcile the theology of the Church of Scientology with the theology of the Nation of Islam.

  19. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Nation of Islam Minister Jamie Muhammad (Savannah , GA Studygroup) receives Scientology Scriptures courtesy of The Friends of Farrakhan Scientologist group.

    NOTE: The Friends of Farrakhan Scientologist group and their role in gifting Scientology Scriptures to members of the Nation of Islam are new develoments.



  20. triumph

    triumph Silver Meritorious Patron

    I don't think there Is a Friends of Farrakhan "Scientology Group" on facebook

    there Is a large "Friends of Farrakhan" group on facebook..
    Friends of Farrakhan raises large sums of Money for the NOI....
    its has 130,000 followers on Facebook
    Friends of Farrakhan does a Community Awards Gala..every year
    and provide a heavily watered down perspective on the NOI ...

    haven't come across the "FoF Scientology Group" isn't on listed on Facebook

    must not have police unions in David
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