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Members of the Nation of Islam are practicing the religion of Scientology

Discussion in 'Nation of Islam and Related Groups' started by CommunicatorIC, Jan 22, 2017.

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    This article first published on The Federalist was republished today on The Clarion Project as:

    Nation of Islam and Scientology: Their Dangerous Alliance

    The authors of the article as published on both The Federalist and The Clarion Project are:

    Ryan Mauro,'s Shillman Fellow and national security analyst and head of the Clarion Intelligence Network. He is also an adjunct professor of counter-terrorism; and

    Alex VanNess, a Research Analyst for the Clarion Intelligence Network and a Fellow at the Endowment for Middle East Truth.
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  2. CommunicatorIC

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  3. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    The Repair of the Black Family event on December 8 - 9, 2018 at the Church of Scientology and Celebrity Centre of Nashville will include instruction in Self Analysis.

  4. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    "We cannot serve two masters."

    I believe it may be significant that this sermon is being given. I find it interesting that Nation of Islam Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad posted this to Facebook. I am not entirely confident Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad gets the point.

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  6. CommunicatorIC

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    Nation of Islam Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad is a Scientology Class II Hubbard Certified Auditor and a Minister or Minister-in-Training of the Church of Scientology.

    See also the first and subsequent posts in this thread for more about Scientology Ministers and Ministers-in-Training.






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  7. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Farrakhan has made some anti-Semitic statements.

    Miscavage has been involved in far uglier things. If anything, it is Farrakhan who should be pressured to denounce Miscavige, and demand that Miscavige free the people he has had sitting in "The Hole", and produce Shelly in public.
  8. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Class II is where you start learning how to sec-check people.
  9. CommunicatorIC

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  10. CommunicatorIC

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    From Dianetically Speaking, the public Facebook home of the Nation of Islam and the Church of Scientology:

    ""Suppressives" in Scientology is a "Hypocrite" in Islam! - Minister Louis Farrakhan"

    NOTE: The concept of "hypocrite" is very important in the Nation of Islam.


    This is yet another effort to reconcile the theology, concepts and theory of the Nation of Islam with the those of Scientology.

    By way of background, Nation of Islam Brother Kenny Muhammad was previously "Highly Commended" for his role at the Black Scientologists Convention.



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  12. triumph

    triumph Silver Meritorious Patron

    Bro Terrell X --- Being a MUSLIM and a GOD in the NOl & the additional study of Dianetics


    the (tech) it belongs to us: 2:28
    Dianetics didn't come from L Ron Hubbard..
    they stole it. heh
  13. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    I've seen Brother Rizza Islam make the same point. Their reasoning is roughly as follows: (1) they rely on Hubbard's statements that Dianetics and Scientology are based, in part, on his study of Eastern religions and philosophies; (2) anyone who is not white is one of the "original peoples"; and, therefore (3) Dianetics and Scientology are based on Eastern religions and philosophies of "original peoples," which include NOI members.

    As I recall, Brother Rizza Islam and some others more charitably that Hubbard organized or categorized this pre-existing tech, and don't say he "stole" it. They thank him for his service in that regard.
  14. CommunicatorIC

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    Scientology recognizes there are three barriers to study: (1) The Misunderstood Word: (2) Too Steep a Gradient; and (3) Lack of Mass. Nation of Islam Brother Luqman Muhammad explains these barriers to study can be understood through the teachings of the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad and the Supreme Wisdom of the Nation of Islam.

    I'm posting this to demonstrate the efforts being made by some NOI members to reconcile their membership in the NOI with their participation in Scientology.

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    Luqman Muhammad

    15 hrs

    The Technology of Study has been a tool given to us that has helped me tremendously with regards to the understanding of any subject matter.
    Identifying the Three Barriers to Understanding has removed great obstacles and has helped me tremendously over these years of being on course.

    1. The Misunderstood Word
    2. Too Steep a Gradient
    3. Lack of Mass

    I won’t go into each in detail but I would like to pose the question.

    Are these Three Barriers found in the teachings of the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad?

    Have we already been given these three keys but somehow they were overlooked?

    The first concept is the Misunderstood Words.

    A sentence is like a Mathematical equation. There are words contained in the sentence that may act as variables. If the variable remains unknown then the equation cannot be solved.

    The same principle applies to our use of words. If a word is misunderstood then the sentence is vague.

    In the study of Linear Algebra, also known as Matrix Algebra, the student is given multiple equations that must be solved simultaneously.

    The variable of one equation must be understood in order to solve the remaining equations. This principle also applies to our Problem Book.

    Words make up sentences and sentences make up paragraphs. Paragraphs make up pages and pages make up chapters. Misunderstanding one word may diminish our true grasp of an entire chapter.

    We have been taught in our Supreme Wisdom in Rule # 3 … “But there is more to be understood in the words.”

    With regards to the significance of gradient, the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad has taught us that when you feed a baby you have to give it milk. You cannot give a baby meat.

    This teaches us that the gradient must be in agreement with the student’s ability to understand. Give too much information and more harm than help can be done.

    This phrase corresponds to the concept of Too Steep a Gradient.

    Finally, regarding the Lack of Mass, we have been taught in Closing the Gap that Master Fard Muhammad taught the early converts through the use of pictures.

    “Now, let’s look at the quality of the persons with whom the master first dealt. What was their condition? They were totally in the dark. They were a very ignorant people. So, Master Fard Muhammad, to Whom praise is due forever, taught them in a language that was the way you teach babies. You teach babies using words that conjure pictures. The picture is not the truth. But the truth is contained in the picture. But as long as the picture remains in the brain, as you mature in understanding, then you can reach into the picture and extract the principle of truth that lies therein.” (Closing the Gap, page 19)

    Along with these three concepts I would like to offer a three more. 1. We must understand the Nature or Essence of what we are studying. 2. We must be able to see the Presence of Allah (God) in what we study and 3. We must be able to apply the concepts under examination to the Study of Self.

    “Almighty Allah has taught me that if we study the universe and the nature of the earth: its plants, animals and insect life; if we study this part of Allah’s creation and the natural laws working among them, we will have the key to understanding of the way of life intended by God for you and me. This is the language of a scientist.” (Closing the Gap, pg. 312)

    The importance of the Study of Allah (God) and the application to Self is found in A Torchlight for America, pages 48 – 51.

    There are many concepts found in our Study of Dianetics and the principles of Scientology that are already present in what we have received from the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad and the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan.

    We must go back and reexamine the Teachings we have received to extract more principles that are still dormant in His words.

    Remember, what we have is the “Fulfillment of the Prophecies of All Former Prophets..."

    What is the meaning of “Fulfillment"?

    Fulfillment means; to convert into reality, to develop the full potentialities of something, to bring about the successful completion of a process rather than the means of carrying it out.

    Even if we study the wisdom, principles or ideas of other Schools of Thought our job is “Fulfill” what we study. Our job is to bring Every concept, Every Subject to the next level.

    That is why it is called Supreme Wisdom.


    HQ 96:1-5

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  15. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

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  16. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    So Elron's tech was either stolen or there all the time.

    Many Suppressive Acts in this stuff.
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  17. CommunicatorIC

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  19. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Virtually all of these people are named Muhammad or "X"...I wonder if that poses as much of an engram case problem as a Junior case?
  20. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Tony Oretega has a major story today about Scientology Freedom Medal Winner Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammad, the Church of Scientology and David Miscavige.

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    But here’s what you won’t see Scientology talk about in its magazines. And that’s Tony Muhammad and the Nation of Islam’s deep bigotry. Go ahead, hear it for yourself in this brief recent clip…

    We’re going to show that Minister Farrakhan never has had a problem with some Jewish people. And he’s going to tell you what he has a problem with. My son is in the entertainment business. And I’m telling you the Jews do control the entertainment business. They control the banking. They control the athletics. They control basketball. They control baseball. They control it all. And, they control the drugs. They control the pimping. They control pedophilia. They control pornography. They control it all. Is it ready, brother? All right let’s play it.​

    So, the next time Scientology cries ‘bigotry’ when someone dares to raise questions about the church’s long history of abuses and controversies, just keep it in mind that David Miscavige has no problem decorating a bigot and celebrating him at one of the church’s holiest places in the world.

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    YouTube has flagged the video and disabled features because the "content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences:"

    YouTube confuses news reporting exposing bigotry and anti-Semitism with bigotry and anti-Semitism themselves. As a result, YouTube censors such news reporting and allows bigotry and anti-Semitism to flourish and prosper with less effective challenge.

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