Lucky for us in the United States we have something call the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) that do accept complaints of fake and fraud in advertising on the airwaves.
But.....
Yikes! Won't all Scientology's miraculous claims all fall under the religious protections afforded to RELIGIONS? FCC won't dare go near that.
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As a pessimist, I agree. Unfortunately that's very true. Think lonely elderly people who don't use the internet habitually and people who are also notorious supporters of televangelists. There were some good sceptical comments on the Underground Bunker about these downsides. If you give me some hours, I'll dig them up. (I don't have time now. )
Reading the comments here and on the Bunker, I've come to the conclusion that many (not all) people are far too invested confusing their hopes for reality -- i.e., believing this is all some big joke, when the truth is they only hope it is a big joke.It's true that many elderly people don't use the internet habitually, and most of them don't even possess a computer.
Fortunately though, they are not the target audience for CoS.
Many are living on a fixed income and don't possess an extra half-million dollars for the cult.
Of those who do, most of them are wise enough to not get involved in a destructive cult.
While I've not personally been involved for many years, I suspect that those Scientologists that are in the age 70-90 range have been in for many years, and only a tiny percentage of them got in recently.
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when the FCC receive complaints they do terminate these shows. All those shows of selling holy water and holy oil are all gone. That show that would pitch the viewer to send the ministry cash now, and God would enrich them with bonanza cash subsequently, all these flim flam merchants...all gone. There are less and less channels that allow any of this.
One TV evangelist after another was found to be embroiled in a sex scandal or a money scandal.
Evangelist Tilton wanted money for his special prayers for you. BUT when it was found out that Tilton’s ministry threw away prayer requests without reading them, keeping only the money or valuables sent to them by viewers, (garnering his ministry an estimated $80 million USD a year), he crashed and burned.
Lots of them gone by the wayside for FRAUD. No longer on the air. Lots of complaints to FCC.
Religious institutions are subject to criminal and civil liability for fraud IF they promise some verifiable, not merely spiritual, benefit or action without having the intent to provide or perform such.Cool![FONT=&]
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when the FCC receive complaints they do terminate these shows. All those shows of selling holy water and holy oil are all gone. That show that would pitch the viewer to send the ministry cash now, and God would enrich them with bonanza cash subsequently, all these flim flam merchants...all gone. There are less and less channels that allow any of this.
One TV evangelist after another was found to be embroiled in a sex scandal or a money scandal.
Evangelist Tilton wanted money for his special prayers for you. BUT when it was found out that Tilton’s ministry threw away prayer requests without reading them, keeping only the money or valuables sent to them by viewers, (garnering his ministry an estimated $80 million USD a year), he crashed and burned.
Lots of them gone by the wayside for FRAUD. No longer on the air. Lots of complaints to FCC.[/FONT]
I was very aware of all of of the above scandals EXCEPT what you described as an FDA shutdown of how their donations were solicited. I find that very interesting and will find time one of these days to search for a simple understanding of how a gov't agency could regulate a religious program? I wonder how that's possible.
The COS is currently very careful not to make verifiable promises that would support claims for fraud. Look at the current grade chart. Given the caliber of their current lawyers and the centralization of SMP (we aren't talking rogue regges here), I suspect SCNTV will be just as careful, if not more careful.Anyways I thought I distinctly remembered that even in the past couple years I thought I saw those donation soliciting televangelists STILL doing business-as-usual. So did a quick Google peek and found this article (within the last 1-2 years) that seems to confirm that they were not shut down (or that they left and came back in through legal/regulatory loophole)
Reading the comments here and on the Bunker, I've come to the conclusion that many (not all) people are far too invested confusing their hopes for reality -- i.e., believing this is all some big joke, when the truth is they only hope it is a big joke.
You state elderly people who don't use the Internet "are not the target audience for the COS." False. Anyone with money or now, increasing, who votes, influences government, etc. is the target audience for the COS.
You state that many elderly people are living on a fixed income and don't possess an extra half-million for the COS. False dichotomy. That is not inconsistent with the fact that many are NOT living on a fixed income and do, in fact, have if not an extra half-million, then substantial sums for the COS. And if they don't, they vote in disproportionately large numbers.
You state that most of are wise enough to not get involved in the COS. Again, so what? That is not inconsistent with the fact that many, even if a minority, may be. Many may be widowed, isolated, lonely, and otherwise vulnerable -- indeed, much more than younger people.
Scientology TV may be a significant development. It is just much more comfortable and too much fun to joke about it.
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[video=youtube;aBejyHI6qr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBejyHI6qr0&ab_channel=zooroper[/video]
(...still' kinda freakin' cynical about omniscient religious demigods , aren't I? LOL. I wonder what my mind is secretly working its way through these days?)
Interesting. That's how I was talking to my 8 month old grand niece yesterday. You know, the baby goo goo language.
Seriously, I watched that 17 second clip of that weirdo and after he said "I love you" my stomach turned inwards. That was way up on the cringe scale. Enforced cringe!
Religious institutions are subject to criminal and civil liability for fraud IF they promise some verifiable, not merely spiritual, benefit or action without having the intent to provide or perform such.
Tilton got into trouble because he was stupid, cheap and/or lazy enough to throw away the prayer requests without reading them, much less praying for them. If he had been smart enough to simply: (a) make it clear up-front that he personally would not be making every prayer, and that members of his designated payer circle would do so; AND (b) then have members of his designated prayer circle IN FACT read every prayer request AND pray over it -- then there would be no fraud and he would still be going strong.The COS is currently very careful not to make verifiable promises that would support claims for fraud. Look at the current grade chart. Given the caliber of their current lawyers and the centralization of SMP (we aren't talking rogue regges here), I suspect SCNTV will be just as careful, if not more careful.
Personally, I'd be shocked if SCNTV broadcast anything that would get them in trouble with the FDA, FCC, or any government agency. It will be all "news," editorial, proselytizing, perhaps pure solicitation of funds like any other religion, and perhaps making non-verifiable and therefore non-actionable promises of vague "spiritual progress."
Where SCNTV might get into trouble is if it expands outside the US to, for example, the UK or another country with more demanding requirements re: balance in news and truth in adversing beyond narrow protection from fraud. One recalls the COS getting in trouble with the UK government advertising board regarding some statement it made regarding Volunteer Ministers. For good or ill, depending on one's view of the First Amendment and government control of media, that level of government scrutiny simply does not exist in the U.Sl.
For example, let's say a Christian televangelist extolls the priceless rewards that God bestows on the faithful--especially being rewarded with a blessed eternal home in heaven if one's earthly "acts" include "spreading God's word" and making "selfless donations" to help send missionaries to Africa in order to introduce Jesus.
Damn. I might need a whole can of brain bleach just after reading that. Umm, looks I went out of it. You don't happen to sell them?
On a more serious note, I could never sit through these televangelist shows, as you did. Particularly not for fun! On the other hand, maybe on drugs...
Anyhow, I don't have cable TV anymore. If you know any "best e.g. worst" videos, please post them...
I would but that might drive some folks here crazy with the truly annoying derail, LOL!
I would but that might drive some folks here crazy with the truly annoying derail, LOL!
But if you are feeling brave, just for starters you can check out YouTube videos for:
Jim Bakker
Tammy Bakker
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Scientology TV (SCNTV) will be on the air by June 21.
From Tony Ortega. A quotation from International Scientology News, an official Church of Scientology publication. Tony further notes that Scientology leader David Miscavige stated Scientology TV will be operational by the summer solstice -- i.e., June 21,
http://tonyortega.org/2017/04/04/da...-by-june-21-to-show-planets-coolest-religion/
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Camera crews have been deployed around the world. The editing bays and audio mix rooms have been buzzing with activity. Scintillating shows have been produced and packaged. Soon, the whole world will see what we’ve known all along — Scientology is the coolest, boldest religion on the planet.
This summer, the highly anticipated launch of the Scientology Network will capture the world’s attention with never-before-seen programming that goes behind the scenes of Scientology. For the first time ever, we will be able to tell our stories in our voice and show the incredible scope and scale of the Scientology religion.
Headquartered at Scientology Media Productions (SMP), a five-acre complex that opened last May in Hollywood, the network is producing original programming to fuel a 24/7 broadcast feed showcasing all aspects of Scientology. The state-of-the-art production studio sits on the oldest continuously operating studio lot in Los Angeles, dating back in 1912 when the silent film era was in its heyday. LRH himself worked on this very lot as a screenwriter in the 1930s. A multi-million dollar renovation preserved the historic character of the buildings while transforming the landmark studio into an ultra modern, high-tech, self-contained production campus where more history will surely be made.
We are inviting the world inside the Scientology experience, showcasing our social betterment programs and introducing them to Scientologists making a difference around the world. Stay tuned for regular series like Meet a Scientologist, through profiles of parishioners it highlights how we are everybody and everywhere. Voices for Humanity will allow us to show how our religion is helping the world on every front of human rights. And Inside a Church will take viewers into orgs around the world, featuring the people, places and stories specific to each church.
The network will enable us to reach more people than ever before. Unabashed. Unfiltered. Unlike anything on television. Planetary dissemination, here we come!
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