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Nolch&Alanzo on Scn haters

Discussion in 'Scientology-related Videos' started by Veda, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Who are the psychs?

    All I mean by taking him seriously is just that -- taking him seriously. Nothing more. Not thinking he is a joke, because he isn't. Not thinking that he is trolling, because he isn't.

    It is not beneficial to turn a potentially dangerous person or situation into a "joke" just because one feels there is nothing one can do about it.

    One can at minimum express disapproval. Here. Or on YouTube. Or in response to his tweet.

    This is not aimed at you, but it bothers me when someone like Andy seriously talks about how the world would be "so much better" if a group of people (in this case psych's) were put in concentration camps and killed, and people treat it as a joke, or think it is funny. It bothers me because I think to do so minimizes the behavior. It also tends to excuse it.

    The analogy I make is to a rabid rottweiler. Do I respect a rabid rottweier? No. Do I think the rabid rottweiler is susceptible to reason? No.

    Do I take the rabid rottweiler seriously? Yes. Do I fear the rabid rottweiler? Yes.

    No, Andy is not the same as a rabid rottweiler. It is an analogy. But the analogy may not be as far off as people may at first think. If one listens to the entire video, as I have, one will discover that his language is consistently defamatory and hateful.

    A broader concern is this. Andy tweeted the video. People are retweeting it. People are Twitter "Liking" it. That is not only disgusting, but also worrisome.
  2. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Was that you sis ????

    You do things like that :duh:
    It's scary :unsure:
  3. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    You know it was!


    We're going to get told off any moment now so I'm off to Glenda's new thread ...
  4. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

    Lovely to see you too. :)

    I have tried to have one of those days where I attempted to get loads done. It all went belly-up when I opted out and watched a doco, fell asleep watching it and then found myself messing around on the interwebs.

    I've started the silly thread. But hey no rush to post, we can chug along at our own pace. Patience is a [STRIKE]virgin[/STRIKE] virtue.
  5. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    No....I don't want to leave this thread.
  6. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Oh, alright then ... but don't say I didn't warn you.

  7. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

    Re: Who are the psychs?

    I get it. I really do. These scary hateful types should not be discounted as capable of bringing a tonne of misery. The reality is they (often) do. There is no room for complacency in this wild world. Under-estimation can be perilous.

    This bloke I mentioned I met in my post above made my skin crawl. His talk was full of masked hate for nearly everyone and everything. I could sense his craving for power and control over a world that he hated. Seriously.

    I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people in this world are sort of anesthetised (which can include ignorance, unawareness, etc.) to the fact that certain types of people will steal from their grandmothers, hurt small animals and bash the shit out of people smaller than themselves. Given a little more scope these same people will marginalise (unhealthy stuff marginalising) any group that doesn't fit into their narrow weird bent world-view. In that process they will gather as many dulled-down empty folk as possible to become supporters of their marginalising madness. The sycophants unite and then all manner of dangerous activities can happen.

    Take care and really enjoy your weekend. :)
  8. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    $cientology or not $cientology,
    Internet if loeaded with those people...
    Even the world is...

    But there are many more people of good will who make this world retains it's beauty.

    I too refuse to let those people suck the joy and laughters out of me...and to drive my attention on them

    And I can tell , from experience, that a very few people will devote their life to make other's life a misery..especially those who try to create beauty, joy, love....Well, I let them into their bullbe..and I keep blowing mine...
    They absoluetly need to suck others into their little bubble for it to exist.......

    Good..but I am not in the train of madness! :no:
    I won't buy a ticket for target two :biggrin:
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2017
  9. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

    Wisdom. I was reading some stuff about narcissism recently. I've read heaps over the years but this new stuff helped me get my head around things in a slightly different way.

    There is a group of people that are all takers. Their internal emptiness, well hidden, is so profound, they are constantly on the prowl for supply, attention, followers. The high-end of takers really do NOT care about other people. They are always looking for the value in others, for themselves.

    Then there is a group of people that are all givers. Their internal emptiness has them bending and bowing in every direction, to please.

    The two extremes tend to be attracted to each other. They make perfect dance partners in a highly unhealthy way.

    There is a lot more to this but basically in the middle of those two extremes is the main group of healthy people who are not screwing others to fuel their inner empty messes.

    I've been playing with these concepts the past few weeks. I can see the unhealthy neediness in others easier (and myself too). The huge mistakes people make when letting new people into their lives, trusting the untrustworthy, sucking up the hollow words of those that sell themselves as everything they are not.
  10. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader

    :goodposting: ^^^ I've always equated takers with psychic vampires of a sort, just out to drain you of whatever is drain-able, be it material or sanity, rather leach-like, potentially devious and vicious imho, notice how those words both haz 'ious'... oh, a butterfly...
  11. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

    Thanks. Yeah, there is an energy these types emit. It is a very vampire(ish) energy but often very well hidden. The last truly beautiful narcissist I encountered was an excellent teacher. The patterns became as plain as the nose on the end of my face as I quietly observed him. He's spent his whole life taking from others. He spends his days looking for the value in everyone he encounters. So devious. So clever. So pretty. So convincing. So draining. And very vicious when a healthy boundary was offered. Doesn't have a clue what a healthy boundary is because boundaries represent a loss of power and control over others.

    Unfortunately the internet, without the full range of human "language" allows these types of vampires to gather followers. They do all sorts of damage to others on the internet. Wild place the internet.
  12. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    I think Alanzo has some unconscious and deeply buried cognitive dissonance around 'scientology wins' and projects it out on anyone who happens to respond while walking past. Hence the flip flops, which in itself becomes a fun way of avoiding the hard personal work and has the added bonus of an apparent audience. :biggrin:
  13. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

    Hey you. :)

    Making a LOT of sense in the above.
  14. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader

    Uhyup. They've been doing damage for long, long time, simple honest humans got it gathered but it does not/has not stop (ped) it.

    My opinion solely and taking a wee tipple, ciao fer nao.

  15. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Kay Sheldon (the wife of Ron Hopkins the London Org OES) came out with a line in her drawly Texan accent in reception one day that I've never forgotten. She said:

    "There are two kinds of people in this world, the givers and the takers, and the givers get took."

    I used that as my sig when I first came on here, and I think trubs remembers it.

    BTW, lovely to hear from you again Glenda me darlin', I've missed ya! Have you knocked-off the self-abuse? :wink2:
  16. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

    You know it's going to be a good day when you wake up, the sky is a beautiful shade of blue and the laughter starts.

    Lovely to hear from you too! :)
  17. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
  18. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

  19. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    You're most welcome. I haven't posted a vid in months and months but you've inspired me. xxx
  20. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    I have sometimes here on ESMB agree with Alanzo and other times disagreed.

    In this case I would say Alanzo missed the target and should have just declared HH = Xenu and thus declaring the Source of discovery and achieved freedom from overwhelm.. Or maybe he did but that is confidential...and locked away in a suitcase only available to those who paid the price and are granted possession of the key.