LOL! So you are smugly assuming that I'm smugly intending the frustrate you? Oh that is funny. As if I care enough to want to frustrate you.
Frustrate -
verb - prevent (a plan or attempted action) from progressing, succeeding, or being fulfilled
; to make ineffectual
: bring to nothing; to make invalid or of no effect
I will let those reading this thread decide on their own whether your posts frustrate my efforts, or not.
I actually didn't intend to make more than one post on this thread. Yes, I've made my posts in a somewhat joking manner, as I usually do. But I am very serious as well. I firmly believe what I have posted. You want dox? Whatever. No one, and I mean no one on ESMB will have dox for you. Why? Because there aren't any to give. No one on ESMB is in a position to give you a definitive answer. All this thread can be is a bunch of speculation.
This is frustrating to me, because it's also an untrue assertion on your part. There are a lot of facts linked and sourced in this thread. Your broad generalization about this thread is both insulting and inaccurate.
I know you mean well, but what you are trying to find out with this thread is for the time being an exercise in futility. It is just simply too early to tell how this employer mandate will be dealt with by DM, or impact the CoS.
That's all you've got? It's too early? As of today, it is NO LONGER TOO EARLY. Both mandates are in effect, so I think now is the PERFECT time to start making noise about this. The individual mandate has been in effect for a whole year - that's potentially a whole year of Medicare we are talking about, for Sea Org.
Ultimately it's going to take someone on the inside of the CoS, specifically the SO, leaking it. You'll probably read about it on Rinder's blog since he seems to be the most consistent source for leaked information these days.
I've made threads about this subject on WWP, OCMB, and ESMB. Neither Rinder nor Ortega has blogged about this subject, AFAIK. Part of my intent with these threads is to get Scientologists in Sea Org and Staff informed about this subject, so that they can feel backed by federal law when they demand health care coverage from their employers. Part of my intent is to get people informed in general. Part of my intent is to ENCOURAGE the very leaks you speak of. Whether that information is leaked to me by PM or to Ortega or Rinder or Freezoners, I don't care. I just want people to be hungry for the information, and I am trying to whet their appetites.
I mean more than well. I mean to get the CoS to pay for Obamacare, one way or another. They can be made to pay, whether it is in bad PR, or fines, or compliance.
I guess that my main point is this.....The cult that made the IRS cry "uncle" and annually gets away with human trafficking and many other human rights violations is going to be taken down by Obamacare?
I don't think so. Doubt it very much.
Anyway.....rest easy....I've said all I can say on this subject.
You're too meek to ask your government to do its job and enforce its laws? Aww, did Scientology's War is Over propaganda make you lose faith in your government? Is the big bad CoS going to Stand Tall while you cheer them on? If you and everyone else on ESMB retreats with your tails between your legs from the idea of enforcing compliance with federal laws on CoS wherever and whenever we can, then I don't know whose authority it is that you expect to be able to bring CoS to heel or ultimately dissolve them.
Maybe you're waiting for a decree from the gods?
There isn't a higher authority to appeal to in the US than federal law.
The other illegal activities you mention have been allowed to skate for reasons that all generally come back to a couple of ideas - (1) the people want to be there and (2) they're a religion. The people want to be there, which is why human trafficking came to nothing, and they're a religion, which allows them to get away with treating their workers like crap while paying them a pittance.
Those reasons DON'T APPLY to Obamacare. The OP notes that churches must comply, and I've pointed out that the religious exemption from the individual mandate is not available to individual Scientologists.
I would like Sea Org and Staff to have health insurance. Can we agree on this point? Can I see you say it, in a post in this thread? Thanks, I was hoping that my last post would finally get you to take a stand on this point at least, but I guess I have to ask more directly.