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Rathbun vs Scientology/Miscavige, et. al -- Preliminary Hearing - Media Reports

Discussion in 'Monique Rathbun' started by JBWriter, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. JBWriter

    JBWriter Happy Sapien

    The definitive thread to read/review about the 'goings on' at the Preliminary Hearing in the matter of Monique "Mosey" Rathbun v. Scientology/Miscavige/RTC/etc. is right here at ESMB:

    The definitive media source for excellent coverage about most everything related to this important legal case, including the Preliminary Hearing, is at The Underground Bunker blog at this link:

    For ESMBers and those who lurk/learn here, this thread is intended as a place to post media reports/articles about this first phase of the case.

    Here's a link to a news story from KHOU's Stasia Willson:

    Harassment case involving the Church of Scientology goes before judge

    (All red highlights that follow are from me -- explanation for doing so found below the quoted portions.)


    Yes, a few typos/grammatical errors/dropped words. And I wouldn't give those forgivable mistakes a second-thought were it not for the clumsy/clunky writing style -- and rather sketchy slant of this hastily-uploaded piece. (Uploaded @ 6:03 today, per the article.)

    How many actual reporters get a quote from an attorney so very wrong?

    And... "alleged human harassment" ?

    Read or don't - it's here and YMMV.

  2. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

  3. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

  4. JBWriter

    JBWriter Happy Sapien

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  5. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

    Will be interesting to watch media unfold on this one in next 12 - 24 hrs. The word "viral" keeps popping into my head. :)
  6. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    One of the amazing things about the cult, is their consistent and horrible crimes. So, every book is of great, great value. Every whistle-blower, everyone who speaks out breaking their silence. It is liberating, and for the good of all. Yet, this signature trait of the cult, makes every court case and every book, a matter of global interest. This has been going on like dominoes falling, and on the good side, the dominoes will eventually run out. On the bad side, I feel a moment of pain when they spend millions or tens of millions on a stalking, and pay their private sector staffing in the stalking and legal side. That $XX,XXX,XXX was someone's donation for something other than that. I just had to vent. The whole thing is sick, and now people will know Monique and her story. I am very glad about that.
  7. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

    Yep. There's something thoroughly non-sustainable happening to the cult as more and more people break their silence. It was silence and secrets that were the glue. And the glue has melted.

    Like you, I feel pain as I watch this circus, yet again, going under the microscope. Real people have suffered at the hands of the cults madness. A real imperfectly perfect woman (Monique) has been put through a living hell and the deluded, deceived, parishioners ignorantly pay for the legal counsel to defend the bullshit.

    It is sick! Keep venting. :)
  8. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    I think I understated how strongly I feel that those hurt by the cult should be properly compensated. And I encourage any and all to step up and make their day in court too.

    As far as my other vent, I would say that the cult of scientology could - theoretically - appear to have a pulse with the money they have, and the few thousand client-scientologists they have left. But, without new public/raw meat, the Orgs and Missions have no stats and would fail. The symptom of this is, all the tiny, off-the-path offices they downsize to. I feel that trend is an indication of the catastrophic failure of the cult.

    As we see, Org buildings are being sold, and the money - taken. They got about $20,000,000 in the past week or two, on the sale of 2 buildings. I also feel that this trend is an indication of things to come.
  9. JBWriter

    JBWriter Happy Sapien

    New story just filed from the Tampa Bay Times by Joe Childs...

    "Wife of Scientology critic details alleged harassment"


    Here's a link* to the online article:

    (*Note: The link seems to have the prior headline, not the newest headline, so the link may change.)

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  10. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

  11. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    Since there are more OT VIII's on ESMB than on the Co$, everyone start postulating. On the count of three - one, two, POSTULATE!!!!!
  12. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

    lol. I'm gonna rehab my ash-tray intention thing...just for the hell of it. :omg:

    "Dance! Damn ya! Move! Sit down on that chair! Touch the fucking wall would ya!!! Fish swim! Birds? Start flying!!!"

    Oh dear, the programming is all scrambled. :biggrin:
  13. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    Do birds fly? Thank you.

    Do fish swim? Thank you.

    Do cult shill lawyers fail? Thank you.
  14. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

  15. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    In Scotland, we had to use haggis.

  16. JBWriter

    JBWriter Happy Sapien

    Does it seem strange to anyone else that, so far, none of the news articles/video that have appeared on the net generated on news-only sites indicate any attempt made by a reporter to ask the private investigator ("PI") defendants even one question?

    Even if the reporter asks and the response is "no comment" or "speak with my lawyer" -- doesn't such an exchange usually get reported somewhere in the body of the story?

    I'd very much like any of the reporters covering this hearing fr those same news-only outlets to simply point-blank ask a PI defendant, "Hey, did you sign any agreement(s) with Co$ in the last few weeks?" -- and whatever the response provided, I'd like to see both the q & a responsibly included in the news report.

    From a practical standpoint, if I'm the 'top banana' and there's a few underlings down below who can connect me with criminal activity, I'm going to ensure those underlings are the happiest...and quietest...underlings in history. If I'm a reporter trying to understand the theory of such a connection while covering a prelim hearing, then I'm going to ask that type of question to the individual(s) most likely to have information -- the PI defendants.

    Like everyone else, I expect a wide array of questions will be directed at each of the name defendants during their depositions, should the case continue on track, but the credentialed journalists reporting on the story for traditional news-only outlets should also be lobbing questions at this point.

    I appreciate the MSM coverage and hope it continues, obviously. What concerns me is that the news-only reporters might be deviating from their standard reporting practice(s) because Co$/scientology is involved. Such deviation, if rooted in fear, does a disservice to all -- reporters and readers alike.

    How will you know if you don't ask? :confused2:

  17. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

  18. JBWriter

    JBWriter Happy Sapien

    Just in from the San Antonio Express-News, by John MacCormack...

    "Woman Asks Judge To Keep Scientology From Harassing Her And Her Husband"
    (Link to article here: )


    THIS reporter actually read the documents filed thus far in the case. Bravo, John MacCormack! :clap:

  19. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    So Oatee and powerfull - E.X.A.C.T.E.L.Y as his mentor was
    So terrified to appear in court and respond to very simple questions......
    about their so E.T.H.I.C.A.L Ecclesiastic behavior\orders...

  20. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Did anyone consider the racial component in the hearings? Mosey Rathbun is African-American. Of the 15 Scientoilogy attorneys, only one is African-America & was the one that was front & center today. The cult has their token black man on their team... they should be so proud. The fact that he was earning a bundle of legal fees from this doesn't mean we can't call Lamont Jefferson out for selling out his integrity & playing the race card against a fellow African-America, in return for alot of cash.


    Lamont's brother is Chief Justice of the Texas Supreme Court.