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Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by radar, Jan 11, 2008.

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  1. Vinaire

    Vinaire Sponsor

    I think what we have are knots in our electronic persona that needs to be straightened out. When that is done, it frees up our creative abilities.

    The process of resolving those knots brings up pictures of the MEST universe. We may give significance to those pictures, but that is secondary.

    The focus should simply be on straightening out our electronic persona.

    If interested, one may simply stitch together those significances using one's creative abilities into interesting stories and sell them to Hollywood.


  2. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    Oh, but I do not consider the Greece incident of the other woman an invalidation what so ever. On the contrary, it brought some proof to what I experienced. What I am saying is that it in itself does not prove that one entity, one person, experiences individual and unique lives, but that it could be a shared experience that many people can tap into.

    And with regard your post, I do agree that it doesn't really matter that while auditing the incident the person runs is imaginary or whether it really happened. If it works, then run it! I have always felt that the question of whether it is imagination or happened in RL is irrelevant when it comes to auditing or other types of regression healing.
  3. Mark A. Baker

    Mark A. Baker Sponsor

    Got it.

    Other "interpretations" of "past lives", "whole lives", "entities", etc. are certainly possible. Many alternatives have been proposed among various "alternative" practices.

    The common scientology views are simple ones which are readily comprehended. They may not be absolutely "true" but they are "workable" for the purposes of scientology technology.

    How a "pc" chooses to explains such things to himself (i.e. his "truth") is for him to decide.

    The function of scientology is to help the pc get whatever gain is possible by running out any charge associated with such phenomena.

    Mark A. Baker
  4. radar

    radar Patron

    Going back to my original post. could it be that these memories of other lives be a case for inherited memories?[/url][/URL]
  5. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    Not in the CofS.
  6. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    In scientology, yes, this is the genetic entity memories which was mentioned here:
  7. nw2394

    nw2394 Silver Meritorious Patron

    Why question it? The experience was real enough to you and, given that you're not digging it up from a book or film that you saw but have subsequently forgotten, then it has to come from somewhere else. Does it really matter whether it is your past life or someone else's or some other far out theory. To me what matters is whether you inspect it in sufficient detail that whatever you were addressing in session no longer bothers you now.

  8. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    Exactly my point. But it is a very interesting question, philosophically speaking :D
  9. Pepin

    Pepin Patron with Honors

    I can't speak for anyone else. My memories of past lives are exactly that. My memories. I remember because I was there. The GE too was there and will have it's own memories. My memories are not from some big collective pool. They are my memories. I know where I have been, what I have done.

    I never met hubbard.
    When I was a Greek, there was this certain roman who would come visit now and then...
  10. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    It was very common during a period in Europe to condemn women as witches. Why, if you went out in the woods and picked herbs you could be a witch. If you did not age properly you could be a witch, the list went on and on, and many women were killed. Even a few real witches too :D
  11. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    Would you like to go into more detail about your past life experience with scientology?
  12. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    There's a little bit about it here:

    Since I posted that entry I did some research and think I might have found the person, but I need a few more details to be able to confirm it for sure. When I read the names and what this person had done in the tech and his profession before scientology I had a huge physical and emotional reaction. This was not the first person who died during those years that I had researched, the others did not have the same history I had recalled nor any reaction when I read their stories.
    It would be very interesting if other people have recalled the same lifetime!!!! [this is my cop-out clause as he wasn't all good and sweet]
  13. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    Oh, great! That was very interesting. What years was this? My experience with LRH was around 1948 until about 1953 when I died (possibly boat accident). My name was (Amanda?) Jan(n) Sisk. I had to consult the "Akashic Records" to get it. Lo and Behold! there was one sheet of paper with my name on it and notes in between. I usually can spot a past lifer from that time period.
  14. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    Well, mine ended in the early 60s. If you died on a boat I have a feeling it was not an accident. One of the things that came up with me is that more than one very powerful and talented, in other words genuine, "OT"s were gotten rid of using this Modus Operandi. Only you can now if this feels true. I hope it didn't happen to you.
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2008
  15. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    I kept running into past lifers around that time whose lives were cut short. One fella told me he was tortured to death by a psych. One fella in an explosion. Oh, well, I think it was either boat or train or plane.
  16. Colleen K. Peltomaa

    Colleen K. Peltomaa Silver Meritorious Patron

    I was definitely a genuine OT and probably stupid enough to reveal it. My "certificate" at that time actually read "OTIII". I'm still scratching my head over that.
  17. radar

    radar Patron

    A man is lost in the desert, he's been too long without water. He wonders about under the heat of the day's sun. As he stumbles over the sand dunes he begins to see a body of water in the distance, his hopes raised he runs towards this oasis, he can feel the moisture in the air, hear the sound of birds at the waters edge. His mind overwhelmed with joy assures him the experience is reall. But alas its only a mirage.
    Yes the mind can play tricks
  18. Mark A. Baker

    Mark A. Baker Sponsor

    Not interested in the Co$. Left it in '82 because of organizational attempts to supplant valid policy with practices which did not conform to scientology tech.

    "It's true if it's true for you."

    ANY scientologist, whether SO, Co$ or freezone, "enforcing" ANY other viewpoint on another is NOT using scientology.

    What people may have "learned" or "experienced" as a result of involvement with the Co$ since that time is highly unlikely to be ACTUAL scientology.

    Other's may argue the exact point at which the Co$ stopped using scientology. For me it is enough to know that they had stopped using it by some point in the '80s.

    Mark A. Baker