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REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base near LA

Discussion in 'David Miscavige and Current Management' started by CommunicatorIC, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Tony Ortega - REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base near L.A.
    http://tonyortega.org/2014/02/07/re...avige-from-escaping-scientology-base-near-la/


    Excerpt:
     
  2. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Shelly Miscavige Guarded By Armed PI’s

    Mike Rinder: Shelly Miscavige Guarded By Armed PI’s
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/shelly-miscavige-guarded-by-armed-pis/

    Excerpt:
     
  3. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    :drama:
     
  4. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    This is pretty big news. Could start in motion the dominoes falling....?
     
  5. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    For that to happen the Federal Government would have to act on behalf of We The People instead of Corporations with Money.
     
  6. The Sloth

    The Sloth Patron with Honors

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    But, but, but......Corporations ARE People. :duh:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/07/the-supreme-court-still-thinks-corporations-are-people/259995/
     
  7. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    Hmmm. Perhaps Shelly isn't as happy as a clam after all.

    Surely this statement has serious implications? Wouldn't the police be obligated to investigate any person who has hired armed security to ensure their spouse does not escape. jeez. Wouldn't the security company be breaking the law too?

    God speed little story as you run wild through the interwebz and news channels.
     
  8. JBWriter

    JBWriter Happy Sapien

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    The update at The Underground Bunker provides a statement made by Robert MacLean.

    Link: http://tonyortega.org/2014/02/07/re...avige-from-escaping-scientology-base-near-la/

    He said:

    Um...?

    JB
     
  9. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

  10. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    Tony's update goes on to state:
    There is not, and never was, any chance that MacLean would back Rinder's statement that:
    Further, there was absolutely no need for the Church of Scientology to "persuade" MacLean not to make such an admission.

    Seriously, regardless of any advice the Church of Scientology would give, would MacLean (or anyone) admit that they served as an armed guard to prevent an adult from escaping? That they engaged in the crime of false imprisonment, and/or a conspiracy to falsely imprison someone? That was never gong to happen.

    What do Mike and Tony expect? That MacLean is going to say, "Oh yes, I was hired, agreed to act, and acted as an armed guard to falsely imprison Shellly Miscavige and make sure she didn't escape?"

    Any minimally intelligent person would say what MacLean said, and would do so without the need to be so advised by the Church of Scientology. His position will be, and has to be, that he was hired and acted as an armed guard to prevent outsiders from invading the premises, harming those inside, etc. He cant possibly say anything else.
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2014
  11. Re: Shelly Miscavige Guarded By Armed PI’s

    And also to chase away anyone who may have tried to contact her... I remember seeing a video of them that either Pope, Anon Orange, or other So Cal Anons shot about that time, of a bunch of big goons looking just like mercenaries piling out of that cabin and out to the road to challenge their car as they drove away. :no:
     
  12. HelluvaHoax!

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    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea


    But, nobody has put forth any evidence or eyewitness testimony that the guard(s) were there to prevent Shelly's escape.

    Not yet, anyways.

    All the COS (Crimewave of Scientology) has to say is that security personnel were there to provide um.....security--for Shelly and all the other hard working church members. Security, the same as every other large organization employs.

    Even if someone (former security guard or staff member) came forward as an EYEWITNESS that Shelly was forcefully restrained when she tried to leave, the COS would simply have Shelly sign a Declaration that:


    • It never happened; Or--
    • She had a minor upset one time and someone talked to her to help calm her down, after which she happily returned to her religious work on her own free will; Or--
    • The "eyewitness" security guard was not a Scientologist and therefore didn't understand that she was doing Upper Indoc TR's with other staff members. They were simply bullbaiting her and practicing "8-C", but she can understand how the wog might have misinterpreted that as being "restrained". In fact, she had huge wins from those drills and recommends them to everyone.

    To her Declaration, the COS would attach supporting photographs of Shelly, each with the identical huge grin plastered on her face as she:


    • Wore a 1950's style flower-patterned dress and apron in the church's kitchen, cheerfully baking Betty Crocker brownies for the homeless.
    • Handing off a brown lunch bag to her beloved husband Dave as she cheerfully sees him off to work in the morning.
    • Enjoying recreational time with Dave and fellow staff as she cheerfully scores a hole-in-one at a miniature golf course.

    All that said, I heartily applaud all of Mike Rinder's and Tony Ortega's investigative research and reporting. There is always a possibility that these threads of inquiry might eventually lead to a blockbuster expose on Shelly or perhaps some unexpected subject/event that nobody has considered or could have predicted (i.e. "Black Swan"). One can always hope!
     
  13. Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    Except, Helly...that photographs show the RAZOR WIRE installed on the fence was facing INWARD. That's de facto evidence of COS/RTC/CST "Security" wanting to keep people IN and not OUT! :no: :grouch:
     
  14. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    MacLean has responded on Mike's blog:

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/shelly-miscavige-guarded-by-armed-pis/#comment-34720

     
  15. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    Yo, HH ...

    You mean "proof" like the recent pix of Barbara Cordova posted at ...

    https://plus.google.com/106891468918067625782/posts

    ... including the "proof of life" shot of her with a January 29, 2014, newspaper (it is part of a two-photo batch; the other picture is one of Barbara with a white dog):

    Like that?

    TG1
     
  16. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea


    Of course!

    But, unfortunately Tommy Davis (when he was Int'l Spokesperson) already explained that inward facing razor wire. This really happened, I am not making it up.

    JOURNALIST
    What about the security razor wire?
    Why is it facing inward?

    TOMMY DAVIS
    That's just the way it was installed. ​


    Yeah, its mindless. Yeah, it's stupid.Yeah it's nonsensical. Yeah, it's Scientology.
     
  17. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea


    Yeah, kinda like that.

    But, who is Barbara Cordova? I must be slipping. Somebody throw a blanket over me and tune in my favorite afternoon show with Mike Douglas, will ya? LOL
     
  18. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

  19. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea


    Perhaps THAT is the source of the problem?

    The founders intended the constitution and bill of rights to protect "we the people" from tyranny.

    $cientology defines TYRANNY.

    Arnie

    PS:BB is that you! you came back just-in-time for the climax!
     
  20. Re: REPORT: Man was hired to keep Shelly Miscavige from escaping Scientology base nea

    It would be a simple matter to corroborate McLeans's statement and also to acquire a more precise timeline.

    Identify the location of the "house across the street" and ask its owner when was it rented a few months and by whom for what given reason.