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Rex Fowler - Everywhere, All the Time

Discussion in 'Controversial Scientologists' started by Alanzo, Apr 10, 2010.

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  1. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    They might not be wise, but they are sneaky. What if the objective is to get money out of the US, for something that will never actually be built, in order to launder money into overseas accounts?
  2. Rene Descartes

    Rene Descartes Gold Meritorious Patron

    The only one I see as a possbility in this case:

    "conceal the commission of a crime"

    This would be a long shot. The prosecutor would have to somehow determine that

    1) the money funneling to the Church was a crime
    2) that there was potential that Ciancio knew this
    3) that silencing Ciancio would cover up potential for the crime to be revealed

    If the prosecution goes this far then the Church would have to be dragged into it because either:

    1) they would be part of the crime and this would get deep.
    2) the only one partaking in the criminal activity was Fowler but the presecution would have to prove it and the defense would have to defend under the premises that there is no crime, that all the "funneling" was legit and the Church would likely have to supply records to verify the defenses stance.

    I'd love to see the defense take the stance that there was no crime but that Fowler was a highly packed pressurre cooker under stress to deliver donations to his Church.

    This trial could get dang crazy if all the potentials come to light.

    The Church could wind up in a damned if they support Fowler , damned if they don't scenario.

  3. Rene Descartes

    Rene Descartes Gold Meritorious Patron

    If the person is walking away wit hthe TV then it might be difficult to prove this part of that statute...

    "...AND when the occupant reasonably believes that such other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against any occupant."

    Unless the criminal had a string attached to his body and the other end of the string was attached to a hand grenade stuffed down the shirt of the occupant.

  4. Kathy (ImOut)

    Kathy (ImOut) Gold Meritorious Patron

    There are only a few places you can't carry concealed in TX - 51% business, meaning they get 51% or more of their income from the sale of booze (there is one restaurant we go to that has the sign up) and churches. And you can only (to the best of my knowledge) carry concealed in TX. You're gun cannot be visible while carrying it - meaning you really shouldn't even have a bulge where it is located (such as if wearing a shoulder harness and the outline can be seen thru your clothing).
  5. Kathy (ImOut)

    Kathy (ImOut) Gold Meritorious Patron

    Well I say, good luck to the prosecutor that's going to take on that forensic accounting.
  6. Div6

    Div6 Crusader

    I think its a bit of a stretch.....the case seems pretty much open and shut, without having to go for a death penalty in the sentencing phase.

    Besides, putting him to death is what he in prison would be a more fitting punishment. Give him time to get his head together and write up his account of events that lead this "mighty ot" to kill another, in direct violation of the creed of the organization he claimed to be a member of.....
  7. SchwimmelPuckel

    SchwimmelPuckel Genuine Meatball

    Not a 'crime'.. Murder to protect Scientology's redicoulous public image! - To avoid a bad PR scene!

    So that it would become public knowledge that OT7 Rex Fowler was unable to say no to the cult's registrars.. He could not say no even when he couldn't afford services. He bankrupted his own company.. All because scientology's registrars 'persuaded' him.

    Of course his 'handling' of the situation didn't work. It'll all come out now.. In media all over the world.

    And that 'inexplicable' and suspicious power that scientology has over it's adherents.. To make them sacrifice their money, life and children.. That will be put under scrutiny too!

    Looks like mind control...

  8. Div6

    Div6 Crusader

    Which raises an interesting question: Are the Registrars Accessories to Murder 1?

    How many reg cycles were you in where they said "what would you do if you had a gun to your head?"
  9. Royal Prince Xenu

    Royal Prince Xenu Trust the Psi Corps.

    That is so true!
  10. Royal Prince Xenu

    Royal Prince Xenu Trust the Psi Corps.

    NSW (Oz) has a similar "Castle Law", but for those few who are allowed to own a firearm, the lockdown restrictions are so ridiculous that in the case of a genuine home-invasion you would be dead before you even get access to your weapon--I suggest people learn the fine art of Kebab Skewer Throwing.
  11. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Since I have kids, I tend to keep the guns locked up. But I do have a whole bunch of decorative (but fully functional, carbon steel) swords around the house. In a close-quarters combat situation, a good blade can be just as effective as a gun.
  12. smartone

    smartone My Own Boss

    TX sounds a lot saner to me :thumbsup:
  13. Kathy (ImOut)

    Kathy (ImOut) Gold Meritorious Patron

    Yes, that's partly why we moved here - sanity. And a great economy even in these trying times. For me, living in Texas, there really isn't any sign of a bad economy. We have new buildings going up all over the place.
  14. smartone

    smartone My Own Boss

    Interesting. I don't think I would shoot to kill if that's the case, just pop one in the extremities to teach the burglar a lesson. However, if my life was in danger I would shoot to kill.

    Mind you, when I was in the US and someone gave me a gun, my legs went like jelly just holding it. So a lot of good I would be trying to aim a gun and end up in a heap on the floor. :eyeroll:
  15. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    That's what all the practice is for. (Shooting at paper targets, not people).

  16. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    The general theme on gun ownership runs contrary to what people get from movie/TV. Don't point it at anyone unless you intend to shoot. Don't shoot unless you intend to kill. That may sound extreme and even superficial, but, there's a lot of very real thought behind it. Unlike what you may see in fiction, *any* shot may end up killing someone. It doesn't mean that you have no freedom of judgment, but, if you do shoot at someone, you should know it *may* kill them, so, it's better to have that in mind. Shooting cigarettes out of people's mouths is not a good anti-smoking policy. If you think you need to shoot someone in the leg to keep them from running over and killing you; shoot at the biggest target. Guns are not scientific or clinical.

  17. smartone

    smartone My Own Boss

  18. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    It's MUCH harder then you think to hit somebody in the extremities, even for an expert marksman. Especially when you consider your target is not cooperating by standing still like a good little boy, but is dodging to actively avoid you hitting him.

    In a real world situation, you aim for center of mass and hope you hit.
  19. Student of Trinity

    Student of Trinity Silver Meritorious Patron

    There are plenty of stories of even trained and experienced opposing soldiers encountering each other at very short range, firing lots of rounds, and not hitting each other. And there is a lot of clinical evidence for the episodes that don't make it into stories, where the wrong guys get shot just because they're closer than the enemy.

    In the panic of suddenly having to kill or be killed, the legs going to jelly thing doesn't necessarily go away with practice. The good guys in the movies always shoot straight, because they're the good guys in the movies. The doofy storm troopers who can never hit anything are actually the realistic part.
  20. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    Aim at a leg with this and you'll probably be OK:


    But, duck really quick