ESMB has entered archive mode. All posts and threads that were available to the general public are still readable. The board is still searchable. 

Thank you all for your participation and readership over the last 12 years.

If you want to join in the conversation, please join the new ESMB Redux at

Scientology's TOP 100 biggest lies

Discussion in 'Evaluating and Criticising Scientology' started by HelluvaHoax!, Dec 12, 2009.

View Users: View Users
  1. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    The work was free - keep it so.

    Honest beings have rights

    Creating islands of sanity.

    Happy Valley

    There is no more ethical group on the planet.

    We intend to salvage this sector.

    Ron rose above the bank.

    I have no second wife.

    Doctor Hubbard

    ...a nuclear physicist...

    ...a 21 medal winner of WWII...

    “This officer has no neurotic or psychotic tendencies of any kind whatsoever."

    Make it go right.

    There is so much good in the worst of us, And so much bad in the best of us, That it hardly behooves any of us. To talk about the rest of us.

    The Way to Happiness

    Clean Hands Make A Happy Life

    Citizens Commission on Human Rights (Should be Citizens OMISSION of Human Rights)

    The highest ability and the value of a being is to serve or their ability to server or something like that.

    The single source of aberration...(Insert Blank: implants, psychs, SPs, engram, GPM, MU, etc.)

    Having the Correct Technology...etc.

    ...only a handful of suggestions (less that twenty) had long-run value and none were major or basic...
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2012
  2. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron

    Joining Scientology staff is a religious commitment and all activities are entirely voluntary. Scientology is a religious philosophy and offers total freedom.


    thanks Zhent!


    What it really says....

    Scientology views your acceptance to join the staff as a religious commitment on your part. At no stage is it a commitment from Scientology to help you advance further in your religion.

    Scientology is a multi level marketing company and your duties will be to ensure that investor number one remains profitable.

    All activities are entirely voluntary in the same sense as breathing, eating and sleeping are also entirely voluntary activities

    Scientology has total freedom to use you for any activity, with or without your consent, and dispose of you at will.
  3. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

  4. GreyLensman

    GreyLensman Silver Meritorious Patron

    Scientology makes the able more able.

    No, not actually. Scientology redirects purpose and energy onto a false all-encompassing and infinite goal as part of a re-purpose of the re-made individual cult member.

    Between that and the separation away from the rest of the world "out there" - PTS to the middle class (e.g., don't you dare actually prosper and have a stable existence), WOG (someone who isn't even trying), Raw Meat, etc - and the restriction of information and the pressure not to think outside of the Scientological framework, the sleep deprivation and the make-a-crisis urgency in all things - you have a classic destructive cult.

    Thus overwhelming any good Scientology the technology might have done.

    The lie is that Scientology is a philosophy and a religion - it's not. It's a destructive cult organization intended to milk money from its follower-victims.

    Damn shame.
  5. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    Scientology is not so good on that whole "The Truth Shall Set You Free" thing.

    Hubbard and his personal messengers (Scientologists) get away with an ocean of lies because they say:

    If it were a lie the tech wouldn't work

    Then if you say the tech didn't work, they declare you an SP and attack you with more lies in the form of dead-agenting, manufactured-crimes and other illegal Fair Game terror tactics.

    Hubbard is a monster and he has many little deputy monster-ettes working feverishly to spread the misery of Scientology as widely and profitably as possible.
  6. Stat

    Stat Gold Meritorious Patron

    Essentially, scientology consists of ethics, admin and tech.

    When one of those doesn't work (and none of them really do, in the long run),
    it can be always blamed on another, for not being properly implemented.

    Nice trick. Reminds me of Three Stooges. And scientology orgs.

    Last edited: May 21, 2012
  7. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    I wonder how a Scientologist would interpret that same photo. . .


    "That big being in the middle is totally at cause and VGI's.
    Those other DB's must have put a lot of entheta and CI
    on his lines and not responded to the lesser gradients of ethics."

    - Billy Blowdown - OT VIII - Patron Stoogitorious -
  8. Stat

    Stat Gold Meritorious Patron

    "I wonder how a Scientologist would interpret that same photo. . ."


    Hmm.. That's probably how ^^^, in a attempt to "handle" whatever.

    Seriously though, I believe many can and will wake up eventually.

    Hopefully, really soon.

    P.S. The con is still alive, but so are the stooges. :lol:
    Last edited: May 21, 2012
  9. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Well...since we're onto the Stooges...WWRD?

    Besides running and hiding with suitcases full of drugs and cash What Would Ron Do?

    He'd join the World Institute of Scientology Enterprises and become a...drum roll, please...

    WISE Guy!!!

  10. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    Just thought this should be on ESMB rather than lost in the ARS
  11. Idle Morgue

    Idle Morgue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Scientology WORKS when 100% standardly applied! (the lie is it CAN'T be 100% standardly applied because it does not WORK)! :omg:
  12. Gadfly

    Gadfly Crusader

    Well, to a degree certain aspects of the tech "do work".

    The tech of "hard sell" does surely "work" to overwhelm Scientologists into paying absurd amounts of money and contributing all sorts of time to the Scientology "movement".

    The tech of "PR" surely works to keep the suckers on the receiving end of a near endless stream of lies and make-believe "facts" about Hubbard and Scientology.

    The tech of "noisy investigations" and "overwhelming lawsuits" DOES surely "work", at least some of the time, to shut critics and enemies up.

    The threat of being found guilty of suppressive acts and declared does "work" to keep many Scientology members in line, and behaving as "they should".

    The various aspects of the "tech" that perpetrate the "mind control" facets of the subject often do "work". The "ruin-finding drill" does "work" at times to cave some sorry sod into his "failings", and enables the reg to manipulate the person onto services.

    Though granted, the continued application of these methods keeps surfacing on various media outlets, with people who have had BAD expereinces with some aspect of this "tech", and to some degree this "hurts them more than it helps". I think it is like the idea of diminishing returns - while the Church of Scientology may continue to make some money and gain some new members by the continued application of standard "Admin Tech", an ever-increasing backlash will continue to grow and expand simply by people getting mad and angry about what happened to them by this "standard application of Scientology idiocy". In the end, the negative results of them applying Hubbard's ideas (the footbullet phenomena) will outweigh the benefits to the Church organization.

    Now, the actual "tech" of "spiritual advancement", yes, THAT doesn't work very well. :confused2:
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2012
  13. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    LRH: No, I never had a 2nd wife.

  14. GoNuclear

    GoNuclear Gold Meritorious Patron

    That was true after a fashion, due to the polygamy involved. BTW ... you can have as many wives as you like without breaking any law, provided that the marriages are not licensed by the state. The HubTurd's marriages WERE licensed tho.

  15. Abletu

    Abletu Patron with Honors

    L Ron Hubbard created a workable source of ethics, tech and admin.

    compare Hubbardism to what I see and found
  16. Abletu

    Abletu Patron with Honors

    Re: Biggest Lie

    Knowing how to know is possible

    With L Ron Hubbard's twisted ethics, tech and admin or hubbardism it is not possible.

    Compare with what I wrote and found, Ron is the real source of squirrelly.
  17. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller


    Nice bump.

    Another lie, perhaps the basic-basic?

  18. Abletu

    Abletu Patron with Honors

    If he claimed he did the auditing from self on himself. Its a lie.
  19. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    I'm not sure about that. As far as I know, the lie is that L Ron Hubbard had any war injuries to start with . . .

  20. Abletu

    Abletu Patron with Honors

    Idolatry practice at its finest. Without a God, how is it possible for humanity to get better?

    Scientific investigation, Ron motto. The followers believed that, and created the scientific proof. Ron provided the incentive through speculative fiction.

    He was on the money a few times, and his growing fear of a world full of monsters drove him out of the ball park with ethics and PTS/SP tech

    My take on ethics