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Sea Org no longer admits children

Discussion in 'Evaluating and Criticising Scientology' started by TheOriginalBigBlue, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    At 9:30 in this video the narrator says, "The Church says children are no longer admitted into the Sea Org".

    Is this true?
    If so, when did they stop admitting children?
    Does this include everyone under the age of 18 in all countries?
    Are they getting around this by having children file for emancipation or other technicalities?
    Can anyone point to a written document supporting this statement?

    ‪New 20/20 Troublemaker: Actress Leah Remini and Her 30 Year Life in Scientology‬

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeeOgjTOADU
     
  2. Chris Shelton

    Chris Shelton Patron with Honors

    Why would anyone here try to corroborate one of Scientology's lies? Of course they still recruit children if they can get away with it. That's what Scientology does. And then they turn around and lie through their teeth that that is what they are doing. What you should do if you want evidence of this is tell them to produce such evidence.
     
  3. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    Still, this is great opening to point out that the church has just admitted it had children in the Sea Org.

    So we have evidence that they did hire children in the Sea Org, but no evidence that they have stopped.
     
  4. Chris Shelton

    Chris Shelton Patron with Honors

    Yes, this is definite evidence as they admit they "no longer" recruit kids.
     
  5. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime


    What's next - a press release that David Miscavige no longer beats his staff?
     
  6. arcxcauseblows

    arcxcauseblows Patron Meritorious

    exactly, this is a good thing, we're breaking them down!

    not that we're organized but we can check a few items off our todo lists:

    child labor exploitation in the sea org - check
    admitting you're a ufo cult about zenu - check
    proving you abuse critics - check
    proving you lie - check
    squirreling scientology - check

    disconnection - soon, they still deny it, first we get them to admit they do it, then get them to cancel it
    beating staff - soon
    fraud - soon
    swindling money for buildings - soon
    remove miscavige - soon
    release shelly - soon
    release heber - soon
     
  7. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Well, because it would be a very significant lie and they just put it in writing to ABC News in an attempt to dead-agent Leah and 8.2 million people just heard ABC repeat it.
     
  8. George Layton

    George Layton Silver Meritorious Patron

    Do they release children?
     
  9. George Layton

    George Layton Silver Meritorious Patron


    How do you squirrel something that had squirreling built right into it?
     
  10. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    I know of a 12 year and 14 year old recruited and routed in within the last few weeks.

    Recruiters also hover outside Delphi School to snag teenage graduates.

    The Cult of Scientology is a pathological liar.
    The next time a crying mom calls me on their child sucked into the Sea Org, I will have them call and write to ABC 20/20 to reveal their contemptible lies.

     
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  11. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    This is actually a very good question. Depending on when they supposedly stopped admitting children it can be assumed that children that were previously admitted are still working in the Sea Org. If we assume that they only admit children 12 or older then for there to be no people under the age of 18 they would have had to stop admitting them in 2008.
     
  12. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    I believe the following recording of Tommy Davis settled the Disconnection question:

    http://www.villagevoice.com/news/to...tly-recorded-discussing-disconnection-6694765

    The Village Voice has obtained an audiotape secretly recorded in December 2009 at a meeting between Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis and a man named Shane Clark. The purpose of the meeting: Clark was facing the prospect of being declared a "suppressive person" by the Church of Scientology, carrying with it the prospect of Clark being "disconnected" by his entire family, who are all Scientologists.
    Just a year earlier, in May, 2008, Davis had appeared on CNN and claimed that the policy of "disconnection" does not exist. But in the audiotape he speaks openly about it, saying at one point, "It is what works. It is what safeguards the church."
     
  13. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    WoW!

    This interview must be wached to the end.

    First time a celeb reveals the abuses toward children in the SO, the berthing conditions, the RPF, the diconnection, the ''fixing'' at flag with non-stop e-meter interrogatories, she also demonstrates what the e-meter is + she reveals the true face of Tom Cruise, and David Miscavige's power and first time I hear a person admitting he at first may be charismatic.

    She seems so genuine, and so aligned with all the previous critics reports on those, that we are left without a doubt that this ''cherch'' is anything but a ''cherch'' :yes:

    First time such a celeb is talking about Sea Org slave labour and children abuses as from personnal experience. They usually emphasis more on $ scam and disconnection.

    Thank you!

    To her aunt reading here:


    Please ask Leah to keep speaking up loudly about human rights abuses in the CO$ and how authorities complacency toward the cult of human abuses makes it a flag of convenience for human trafficking and abuses in slaves SO compounds like Flag.
     
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  14. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    They'd need plausible deniability.