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The Pity Play - Tipoff Play of Sociopath

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by TG1, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. Vittorio

    Vittorio Patron Meritorious

    I'm giving this post a bump because I have had and still have such an individual in my life and to have had more than one, made me realise that there was some work that I needed to do on myself.

    One common characteristic is the role play; they can be very nice and caring one moment but can become incredibly vicious. I might be thinking more of NPD, HPD, BPD. This splitting of personality is what makes it hard for people to leave them. They do the same on other people and when someone who flatters them more (or does not know them so well) comes along, they may turn a current contact into the "bad person" (especially if they question them, don't enable them, or try to withdraw or are simply too nice and/or naïve). Once their supply becomes exhausted, more attention seeking behaviour may be exhibited.

    I remember at a time when I needed help, someone listened to me and gave me the time and it really changed me for the better. I've thought having that attitude would work with the people above and that by abandoning them I was only playing into the psychological mechanism that worry's them so much. What all "these" people have in common (from my experiences, but correct me if I'm wrong) is their lack of time to focus on the needs of others. Comments such as; "I get rid of people if I think they have issues" or "Such and such is needy". In reality it is they who are needy and who try and introvert their victim into negating their needs and becoming "supply" for the disordered person. Don't feel guilty for having needs or problems, but be sensible and handle them and don't allow your vulnerabilities to be exploited!
  2. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    ^^^^ Great insight! (Describes someone I used to be close to.) Thanks.

  3. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    same here.
  4. Vittorio

    Vittorio Patron Meritorious

    Well, I think this thread could be really helpful to people, especially those in, or recovering from an abusive relationship, so I added my two cents to the conversation and I'm glad my comments were useful. It's been really useful for me to read others thoughts and experiences.

    We need to make sure we work on ourselves and stay alert to this behaviour to not be sucked in again.
  5. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Me three - Thanks, great post.
  6. Vittorio

    Vittorio Patron Meritorious

    I just found this;

    Ironically the person who I still know claims that her last three ex's are psycho's and has smeared them. Has also smeared a religious leader she fell out with, several family members and on and on. Is it possible for one person to have known so many psycho's unless they have a disorder or a co-dependency issue? Her victims were easy to smear as they had character and personality traits that made them stand out; one was socially awkward and highly academic, another had learning problems and the third was besotted with her. Seeing this, made me realise that a lot of victims are *not* bad people, just have obvious characteristics that separate them out from others.

    I remember very distinctly after two of her break-ups she said in a very hollow voice "I can't stand to be alone" and wanted me to stay over.

    Same goes for Scientology. You've all seen me get mad with the Freezone on this forum. I'm starting to learn that it's not worth it. Not only was I conned and believed in the con, but trying to make people care about something is pointless. It's important that many of you care about what's happened for your own sake. I believed the con was something that it's not which is why it seemed so wonderful for me. When the curtain came down and I seen something completely contradictory it was hard to believe and for years I tried to put the curtain back up, thinking that a bit of window dressing would make the con all nice again. A bit of window dressing is all it is. The window is sometimes best left exposed.

    They don't care when they've gotten rid of you.
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2013
  7. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Mike Rinder had an interesting post on his blog published earlier today:

  8. Freebo

    Freebo Patron

    Mix a little bit of charisma in with the sociopathy, and the malefactor can become irresistible - why are homo sapiens susceptible to silver-tongued manipulators?
  9. tetloj

    tetloj Silver Meritorious Patron

    Trust and compassion have an evolutionary advantage for the group MOST of the time - sociopaths take advantage of that:grouch: