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There never was any OT IX or X!!

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by TheSneakster, Aug 6, 2010.

  1. TheSneakster

    TheSneakster Guest

    Pat Broeker just made it up after Hubbard died to give him leverage over David Miscavige! :ohmy:

    From the latest post on Marty Rathbun's blog:

    Michael A. Hobson
    I am *not* anonymous. I *do* forgive.
     
  2. Wisened One

    Wisened One Crusader

    And of course, there were no OT Levels 11-15, either, right? :duh:
     
  3. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    According to Marty Rathbun:

    "You may have listened to my story about the raid on Broeker’s ranch that I lead to retrieve LRH’s auditing files (St Pete Times video interview)."

    Does anyone remember this? Is there a transcript?

    Zinj
     
  4. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I can't wait to hear Pat Broeker's version of things, especially the home invasions by Marty and scn minions.
     
  5. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    My problem is I don't remember this from the interview. If it's there, it's Marty confessing to *another* crime. And, one done much earlier than his obstruction of justice in the McPherson case. I think that would have stuck out.

    Zinj
     
  6. TheSneakster

    TheSneakster Guest

    Whether or not such levels exist in the spiritual realm as mapped out by Ron Hubbard, it would seem obvious that they have never been compiled into deliverable form from Hubbard's notes/case files, either.

    Michael A. Hobson
    I am *not* anonymous. I *do* forgive.
     
  7. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    And, Marty knew that since the mid-'80s. When was it he left?

    Zinj
     
  8. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    :whistling:
     
  9. What difference does it make?

    If you haven't figured out you have been taken for a ride by time you get to OTVIII,

    you deserve to lose your money to the cult on principle alone.

    People who keep falling for this ridiculous nonsense are too stupid to be allowed to keep their money.
     
  10. dianaclass8

    dianaclass8 Silver Meritorious Patron

    From Marty: When the folders turned out to contain no holy grail, Broeker then said he had other LRH writings that constituted the keys to OT IX and X. Another raid ensued – in which I coordinated a squad of armed outside security personnel to secure the premises.

    What does this mean? Was Marty willing to order his armed squad to shoot and muder Pat Broeker? :omg:
     
  11. Wisened One

    Wisened One Crusader

    ..and how is it that he can still be a scn after knowing such, as well?! :ohmy:
     
  12. dianaclass8

    dianaclass8 Silver Meritorious Patron

    Marty, Miscavige, Larry Brennan, Rinder, etc, etc...none of them are scientologists.
     
  13. What else is he going to do to earn a living?

    He tried a few things after Miscavige kicked him to the curb and none of them panned out,

    so he went back into the cult business.
     
  14. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    She's talking about Marty being a Sea Org, Exec Stata and RPF member from the mid 80's until he left in 2004 or there abouts.

    Please explain what you mean Diana. I am interested in your comment. I have always been of the opinion that to be a Scientologist is to use all of Scientology per KSW.


    Mary
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2010
  15. He was going to do what ever it takes to "Keep Scientology Working", as L. Ron Hubbard would have wanted him to.
     
  16. The Great Zorg

    The Great Zorg Gold Meritorious Patron

    What?!!!

    Bullshit! I am OT IX !!!!! Hunh!

























    :wink:
     
  17. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I agree. I don't recall hearing this or seeing this discussed.I would have made note of it because I tend to give Pat some leeway, since he's not here to speak for himself on all the attacks from Marty and gang. I also believe so because he was a trusted loyal staff member of Hubbard's. He lived with the guy. It's easy to bash someone who is probably under a gag order, si nce they cannot speak up.
     
  18. dianaclass8

    dianaclass8 Silver Meritorious Patron

    We do not know what is going on behind the scenes...perhaps Pat Broeker is threatening MR to come out and tell all, as it appears all these years they been fighting amongs themselves.
     
  19. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    Why would Pat Broeker be under a 'gag order'? As far as I know there's been no court 'settlement', or, even a 'case'.
    The last anyone's mentioned being on contact with Pat was Robert Vaughn Young who said Pat had called him, but gave no further details.

    Zinj
     
  20. AnonKat

    AnonKat Crusader