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Thomas Jefferson Quotes

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by TheSpectator, Jul 4, 2014.

  1. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    I suppose one could reply with, nowadays,

    listen girly, hang your hunk, man, poster on your locker door, and we are even.


    equal rights et al. :thumbsup:
  2. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    "Not allowed"? The phrase implies some entity with the power and will to slap down judges when they move outside their lawful boundaries.

    The Supreme Court has the power, but often is itself guilty of legislating from the bench. Congress has the power, but hardly ever the will, to impeach judges who act outside their proper authority.
  3. i think you may have misunderstood the post. you had said all men were given the vote before any women. i was just pointing to a small detail that at least some "indians" (i prefer "indigenous") did not gain the franchise until four years later

    but i don't think you were actually disagreeing with the content of the post but rather the commander's capacity for being a pedantic twit and a know-it-all arsehole...
  4. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    Lol! No, I just misunderstood you. I withdraw my disagree. But how good is your memory? I struggled throughout school to remember historical names and dates. Literature and personal stories were my area. People who could rattle off sequential histories of events amazed me.

    Pretty messed up how it was only recently that the indigenous American Indians (how's that phrase?) gained their full rights. Similar in Australia.

    How ironic that in the meantime, thousands of foreigners easily gained dual status and full citizen rights, long before those who had been there thousands of years.


    Btw, the American Indians are quite wealthy these days. The casinos they built on the reservations changed everything. They're not gamblers, and they require stringent proof of 1/4 or 1/8 (I forgot which) tribal blood and geneology for anyone to share in the wealth. True fact.
  5. Purple Rain

    Purple Rain Crusader

    Frederick Douglass


    Sojourner Truth

    Last edited: Jul 12, 2014
  6. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    The Indian was a citizen of his tribe, a sovereign entity to which he gave his allegiance.

    The naturalization oath to be a citizen of the US is

    "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
  7. BobDobbs

    BobDobbs New Member

    Frequently notice the connection. During the 80's schism, I always thought this applied, from the Declaration of Independence:

    "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

  8. goddam memory is gittin' shot full of holes. still good for some fancy stunts though

    yeah, actually the trail of tears led to oil fields in oklahoma that made some injuns wealthy in the thirties

    i am very pleased my country stopped short of a full genocide (as did occur in argentina and elsewhere) and found a fine avenue of compensation

    how's with the 'gins these days? much better in recent decades i hear...