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Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology PART 4

Discussion in 'Evaluating and Criticising Scientology' started by HelluvaHoax!, Apr 25, 2017.

  1. HelluvaHoax!

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    Find PART 3 of this thread here:


    But what about the time you committed
    bigamy by marrying your second wife?

    I never had a second wife.


    But don't you deeply regret all the times you defrauded,
    declared, disconnected, sued, fair gamed, terrorized
    and bankrupted all those innocent people?!

    I never had a second thought.

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  2. HelluvaHoax!

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    Top 100 Stupid MEMORY ERASURE Moments in Scientology


    (go to 05:21 for Hubbard's claim "I never had a second wife."):


    BREAKING NEWS! After 67 years of researching the subject, Scientology historical scholars have verified Dr. Hubbard's oft-disputed claim "I never had a second wife".

    In keeping with Dr. Hubbard's "modern science" motif, they have offered up indisputable scientific proof that LRH never had a second wife:


    The photo on the right (generously provided by COS archivists) quite clearly proves that the photo on the left was heavily doctored. Otherwise, there is no plausible scientific explanation for why the photo on the right depicts him obviously unmarried.
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  3. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    Cross posted from another thread.

    Recently ran into this:


    Madman or Messiah link:

    According to old-timer John Sanborne:

    Earlier on (before the divorce) he made this stupid attempt to get
    Sara brainwashed so she'd do what he said. He kept her sitting up in a
    chair, denying her sleep, trying to use Black Dianetic principles on
    her, repeating over and over again whatever he wanted her to do.
    Things like, "Be his wife, have a family that looks good, not have a di-
    vorce. Or whatever."*
    He had Dick De Mille reciting this sort of thing day and night to

    Reading this Sara commented:
    "Dave Williams was also working on me. They always talk about
    Dick DeMille. They never talk about Dave Williams.
    "He [Hubbard] was in Cuba for two months. The last time I saw
    him was in Kansas at the divorce hearings. When the divorce was
    over I felt like I had been freed from prison! The last year with him
    was particularly terrible....
    "I'm not a pathetic person who has suffered through the years be-
    cause of my time with Ron. I can't waste my time dwelling on it....

    *Around this same time Hubbard was lecturing and writing on the evils of
    "Pain-Drug-Hypnosis," and warning about "Black Dianetics!" - i.e..reverse Dianetics,
    used to implant hypnotic suggestions rather than run them out.

    *Sara Speaks*

    "You show what he was in your book. You really don't need


    In the early seventies a story was being circulated by the Guardi-
    an's Office that Sara had died. According to the story, just prior to
    passing away-while on her death bed - she had asked to see Hub-
    Ron responded immediately and came to her side. She looked at
    him sadly and said, "Will you forgive me Ron? Everything I said was
    lies." And he said, soothingly, "Of course."
    Then, according to the story, she added, "I had to do it Ron, I was
    being blackmailed." And he answered, gently, "Why didn't you tell
    me? I would have done something."


    Sara, referring to the last years with Hubbard:
    "It is too disgusting. I have done well keeping away from discussing
    it for 35 years and I don't want to talk about it now."


    History would have been better served if the whole story came out.
    There is little doubt, however, that the lives of Sara and her husband
    and their beloved family would be badly served by the heavy-handed
    brutality of Scientology's "secret service" rolling out their harassment
    and "black propaganda machine."
    Sara sat back in the chair. Her large blue eyes staring into space.
    "No, I'm sorry Bent, I would prefer not to continue...."​
  4. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    "I had to do it, I was being blackmailed, Ron."

    I heard this very story while "in" so Scientology knows all about Sarah, the Commie/Nazi spy.
  5. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    More cross post stuff.

    There's just a couple of things I'd like to see added.

    One is the $10,000 reward he had out for anyone who "cleared" Sara sans Hollister.


    Two is that during this time he was begging for cash donations through his various monthly newsletters. Alas, I cannot find the links to this portion of the story but it screams to be told. They were pathetic outpourings and typical Hubbard.
  6. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Re: Top 100 Stupid MEMORY ERASURE Moments in Scientology

    Speaking about memorable erasure moments
    I stumbled upon this one which left me disgusted

    This picture was redacted


    To make the CMO little girl ( wearing a fake navy costume ) disappear


    Why ????


    Because of the bad pr ?????? :confused2:


    Dr Hubbard, the reincarnated Lord Mettaya, the great humanitarian!
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  7. HelluvaHoax!

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    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    Truly bizarre!

    It reeks of Hubbardian manipulative black ops and treachery.

    And $10,000 in 1951 was not a trifling amount. In 2017 it's the equivalent of $96,573. And here's the ninety-six thousand dollar question:


    Plus, knowing full well that she would do anything to avoid being under his sociopathic control or even in his vicinity--he might have just been using his wife/child as an "angle" to market the sale of his auditing and courses. You know, demonstrating his total certainty that his de-abberation tech would work even on a person he alleges to be insane.

    In the craziest of scenarios, if she submits to "clearing" and stops attacking (telling the truth about Hubbard) then he wins because it "proves" Clearing works. On the other hand, if she is unwilling to submit to "clearing" then it proves that she is crazy and refuses to get better.

    With Hubbard there was always an "angle". Too bad he didn't run this advertisement three years later because he could have employed the "religious angle" with "ministers" on standby, ready to give spiritual counseling to her based on "scripture".

    SCIENTOLOGY: The only religion with a salvation pricelist, sales commissions and big discounts if buy bulk quantity salvation.
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  8. HelluvaHoax!

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    Re: Top 100 Stupid MEMORY ERASURE Moments in Scientology


    Just a guess, but judging by the position of her left elbow (and close, 3-feet proximity behind the Universe's sole savior), it is not unlikely that she was holding an ASH-TRAY to service and catch Buddha's cigarette ashes.

    Little kids did that, ya know. Followed him everywhere to catch his garbage. Adult Scientologists similarly caught his garbage, but from a different position--while seated quite still in chairs obediently listening to his lectures.
  9. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    but Hoaxy, did you noticed the little girl is injured to the left cheek (obviously swollen, probably a black eye too)??? :nervous:
  10. Little David

    Little David Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    A poster who says she was that little girl posted this on wwp:

    DeathHamster said:
    Yeah, maybe. We can speculate, but I'd much rather have a documented personal account from someone who was there while they're still alive.

    Is this person still alive and is she out?

    Quentinanon says that she's Julie Blundell, and she's out. I'd like know the story behind that picture.​

    Yep I am still alive and yes I am out. Have family still involved though so you know the drill, low profile and all that! I have stayed out of everything up til now, but due to your very sincere and reasonable request for real clarification rather than speculation, I have posted below what I think was the cause of that facial swelling and probable eye patch. It was such a long time ago, but I can say for sure that no one hit me on flag, nor was I ever locked in the chain locker. But people were, I did see this personally, my sister being one. I was however well and truly belted a few years later at AOSH DK by a crazy woman from flag on mission to DK. AND she was one of the CS's! jeeez!! If my dad had not busted in the door and stopped her, I would have been a real mess! So yes, i can confidently attest to the fact that violence did happen on occasion! She was trying to stop me leaving the SO at the time and I was 15. As if that's gonna work on a 15 year old very stubborn person!! HAH!!

    I was one of his messengers since the inception of the CMs, together with Annie, Terry and Janis. I left in 1970 sometime. And no, Ron never hit me in all my time with him. I think that the swollen face may have come from an accident up forward one day when a pulley system came loose, swung down and hit me in the face. I don't remember ever having a bad enough tooth ache on board to have that much swelling, although, lets face it, oral hygiene was not a great priority back then so it may well have been a toothache! Oh, And I could have been anywhere from 8 1/2 to 11 1/2. So there you have it straight from the horses mouth!
    Toddles! JB
    Ps.... I was not short! It's the camera angle I'm sure!! [​IMG])​

    Bumpa, Mar 9, 2013Report

  11. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    Oh, so she was a PTS DB all overtous and pulled it in. Makes sense now. Hope she didn't enturbulate Ron!!
  12. HelluvaHoax!

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    Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

    Cross-posted from another thread discussing the preposterously pretentious percentages provided by our favorite mathematically messianic "Meitreya" (i.e. the reincarnated Buddha and infallible part-time statistician known as L. Ron Hubbard):


    :clapping: Nicely done, sir! :clapping:

    There are yet additional percentages which I have recently discovered that are not part-and-parcel of the "Red Volumes"--nor contained in the woof-and-warp of the "Green Volumes", and so forth and so on, on this planet.

    Readers can, however, verify the standardness & on-Sourceness of these self-evident Ron-Ratios by simply looking them up in the "Brown Volumes"[SUP]*[/SUP] in the section designated as:


    99.0% of all beings who ever studied any of Ron's published ten million (10,000,000) words of technology (--a tech that works on 100% of all beings 100% of the time!) tragically encountered just one (1) misunderstood word that reactively forced them (against their own wishes, intentions and postulates) to blow Scientology forever. Ron's wholetrack research quite shockingly discovered that even supernaturally powerful OT VIIIs who were "Total Cause Over Life" were rendered powerless to remain in Scientology. This resulted in "2nd Phenomena" en masse, wherein 99% of all Scientologists eventually end up blowing--then ultimately attending a muster on the internet after which they promptly begin nattering.

    were Ron's slaves. ("All men are my slaves" - LRH affirmations)

    200.0% is the miraculous degree of standardness/workability of Ron's technology--after each time he canceled and replaced his previously 100% standard/workable tech.

    [SUP]* [/SUP]Brown Volumes - noun: The scriptural revelations that comprise the highly confidential hidden data line of Scientology, which is only rarely disclosed to loyal officers on a need-to-know-how-to-know basis. These volumes were so-named after the graphic motif (brown on white) which paid homage to and was reminiscent of the color of bullshit.

  13. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    The real psycho stuff was that during this time Hubbard was pleading with subscribers to send in donations as he was broke.

    Alas, I cannot find examples but they were in zine publications from this time. No services offered just pleas for money.
  14. HelluvaHoax!

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    Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology


    This has got to rank within the all-time greats from the Stupid Hall of Fame.

    Scientology somehow making it go right to boom their PR stats in their very own cosmic cult capital, Clearwater--by registering unprecedented 'highest evers' on the the graph marked:


    Yes, Scientology is actually attacking their host city, Clearwater, by trying to destroy any efforts to build a wonderful aquarium that would serve as a desperately needed downtown attraction and tourist magnet.

    Well isn't that appropriate! (parasites attacking their host)




    SCIENTOLOGY KOAN: What Scientology technology can fully handle the case of a declared dolphin?

    ANSWER: Expanded Dolphinetics (running out Evil Porpoises)
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  15. HelluvaHoax!

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    Top 100 Stupid MARINE MYSTERY Moments in Scientology


    POSTSCRIPT PARADOX: Who or what would be the only people on this planet to attack, block and try to utterly destroy a city's plan to create an enchanting, world-class MARINE AQUATIC facility that showcases and supports SEA life?

    ANSWER: The people who call themselves the "SEA" org. LOL. Yes, those are the ones that wear fake MARINE costumes. Like everything else in Scientology, they can lecture about the sea and even pass a clay demo on the wonders of "5th Dynamic" marine life--but they absolutely can't/won't ever actually do anything to help it.
  16. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

    Oh My Fucking Xenu - that was so funny HH !!! Hysterical! THANK YOU FOR this post....made my day!

  17. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Re: Top 100 Stupid MARINE MYSTERY Moments in Scientology

    I will attack, block and try to utterly destroy a city's plan...

  18. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Re: Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology - PART 3

    Gotta love the Clearwater aquarium story. Miscavige and Scientology want some ground and here's what Yingdingaling sent to stop the sale to the city:

    Yingling accused the aquarium of fabricating claims about the economic benefits it provides the county. She said that the aquarium was breaching its obligation as a non-profit organization, and she called for a government investigation of aquarium officials. She said that the aquarium overpays its Chief Executive Officer, David Yates, and that it fails to pay taxes on items purchased at its gift shop. “The stench of commerciality pervades its operations,” Yingling wrote. “The Commission should consider all of these relevant facts before making a decision to provide additional millions of dollars from the Tourist Development Trust to the CMA."​

    Does that sound familiar?

    What's even better is that the ground is being offered to the city for $4.25 million and Scientology was turned down after offering $15 million. People hate the cult so much they won't take $10 million. Amazing!

    Then they send the dead agent pack as per Ron's tech. The result? You guess it.
  19. HelluvaHoax!

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    Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

    All Scientology's dead agent attack actions vs. Clearwater's plan to build a beautiful aquarium are quite religious and standard.

    Per Hubbard's scriptural mandate, when humans don't comply with Commodore/COB orders, the most ethical people on this planet must then "...find or manufacture"[SUP]1[/SUP] sufficient threats to terrorize their victims into succumbing and thereafter obeying "Command Intention".

    All this certainly seems like a perfectly legitimate way to boom the local economy and "Make Clearwater Great Again"--by bringing back manufacturing jobs.


    [SUP]1 [/SUP]"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 15 August 1960, Dept. of Gov't Affairs.

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  20. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Mike Rinder and Leah Remini Deprogram "Winter - the Dolphin" - Winter BLOWS!

    Ladies and Gentleman - Winter speaks out after getting his Golden Rod.


    In response to Winter's SP Declare - Winter Speaks Out!

    Winter has now lost his family due to disconnection.

    Our inside moles report Winter's entire family are being holed up in the RPF for the Aquatic PTSness - in a large aquarium in the Super Power building - they are not allowed to eek any COMM to Winter...

    Here is what Winter had to say...(translated...."I ain't doing no A-J!")

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