Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology PART 4

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Originally posted by Enthetan

From the inside, when I first got in, it looked like a group that wanted to make the world a better place, and had the technology to do so.

What you had was a bunch of naive idealists, being manipulated by cynical psychopaths at the top. Much like how Communism got started.
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A perfectly illuminating post!

Communism has "Useful Idiots".​

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Scientology has "OTs".​

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OTs -noun: Occluded Thetans

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Enthetan said: ↑

Scientology even dislikes plain medical doctors, preferring Scientologists go to chiropractors.
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REASON: Medical doctors are too complex. Ron states that "complexity is equal to degree of non-confront". On the other hand scientology chiropractors have gargantuan confront and can quickly and easily find your mest body's why.

DISCLAIMER: I do not want to "evaluate" for Scientologists, so I will let them speak for themselves:

SCIENTOLOGIST
Doctor, my lungs have been giving me huge problems,
for years I couldn't stop coughing and now I can hardly breathe. "


SCN CHIROPRACTOR
We'll need to do a full workup, blood panel and
other diagnostic tests so that we can exactly determine the
source of the problem, so that we can make it vanish.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Wow, that sounds complicated---and expensive!

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
Oh, no it's quite simple, actually I already ran
all the diagnostic tests.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Wuttttttt? When did you do that, today
is my first visit to your clinic?

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
I did it after you described all your symptoms.
The WHY is that you have spinal subluxations.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Wutttt? My spine?

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
Yes, the misalignment of your vertebrae are
suppressing the flow of theta to your lungs. I
can give you a series of adjustments over the
next months and your lungs will be as good as new!


SCIENTOLOGIST
Wowwwwww! That is amazing. That's it, there's
nothing else for me to do or be worried about?


SCN CHIROPRACTOR
Well you will need to do two things--first, pay for
a 12.5 hour intensive of adjustments today
and get the sliding scale discount.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Okay, I hope it's not too expensive. What was
the other thing I need to do?

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
You need to take the prescription I am going to give you today.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Oh, drugs? I was hoping to avoid that.

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
No, not drugs, LOL. We base our presciptions on
real science and naturally growing herbs and such.
Before I write your prescription, I need to ask you
if you are a smoker and if so how much you smoke a day?

SCIENTOLOGIST
Well, um...yes, I do smoke. About 1 pack a day.

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
Okay then, here's your prescription, I need you to
increase to 3 packs a day, like Dr Hubbard smoked. He stated
stated that lung cancer is caused by not smoking enough cigarettes.

SCIENTOLOGIST
My cousin is an emergency room doctor and he told
me that my lung cancer is from smoking.

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
LOL. Well, obviously your cousin is a wog, so he doesn't know.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Actually my cousin is the one that got me into Scientology.
He's an Expanded Ggrade IV Release!

SCN CHIROPRACTOR
LOL, well that's all fine, but he's only a Grade IV and I am an OT I,
so obviously he doesn't have all the advanced confidential
information and secret upper level technology.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Wow, that indicates! I feel all the charge is totally blowing,
i think my cough has already been handled, I didn't cough for the
past 10 minutes just being in your theta space!
Do you have any blank Success Story forms?


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[JustSheila]

"A billion year contract? What are you, the devil?"

Those were my exact words when I first saw that Sea Org contract.

I should have trusted my first impression and followed my gut instinct about that sinister place.

 

[guanoloco]

It's time to repost this old Haiku.

Oh, ESMB
Where's Vinnie, Sneaks and the Bake?
Knowing how to know​

 

[screamer2]

It's time to repost this old Haiku.

Oh, ESMB
Where's Vinnie, Sneaks and the Bake?​

Knowing how to know​

Mystic has vanished
Even the venerable
Have passed from this space

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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Another thread (where a new poster is asking for information about "GPMs" and where to buy an e-meter) has inspired an all-new feature on The Stupid Thread.

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Originally posted by Terril
I have a mark 6, I think without one of the leads,
but I'm pretty sure its working. If no joy PM me.

SCIENTOLOGY BELIEVE IT OR NOT ODDITY DU JOUR
The Scientology e-meter produces a Clear or an OT in
exactly the same amount of time with or without leads.


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[cleared cannibal]

In my box today. Feel free to answer the questions

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Dear Friend,
I wanted to take a moment to remind you of the amazing power of auditing. In HCO Bulletin of 15 January 1970, Issue I, The Uses of Auditing, LRH says:

“... People who have been ill for some time often only get well because they are audited.

“After any illness the person should be audited.
“After accidents and medical care people should be audited.

"Almost any human situation containing pain or misemotion should be handled by auditing.

"In the field of ability, auditing is king. The inability to study or to work or even to live can be handled in many ways."

Later in this reference, LRH goes on to say, "... Auditing is the answer to human disability and travail. It can make life worth living. ... There is no limit to what good auditing can do. That is the first thing one should learn about it."

With all of this in mind, I have a few questions for you.

1. When was the last time you went in session, be it here in Portland or some other Scientology Organization?


2. Do you feel you handled what you wanted to handle in your auditing?


3. Have you been ill or had any accidents since the last time you were in session?


4. Would you like to get auditing in the Portland Org?


5. Do you know anyone else that would benefit from getting auditing?



Thank you very much! I look forward to hearing from you!


Much Love,
Daniel Klevit

 

[cleared cannibal]

In my box today. I need help answering the questions.

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Dear Friend,
I wanted to take a moment to remind you of the amazing power of auditing. In HCO Bulletin of 15 January 1970, Issue I, The Uses of Auditing, LRH says:

“... People who have been ill for some time often only get well because they are audited.

“After any illness the person should be audited.
“After accidents and medical care people should be audited.

"Almost any human situation containing pain or misemotion should be handled by auditing.

"In the field of ability, auditing is king. The inability to study or to work or even to live can be handled in many ways."

Later in this reference, LRH goes on to say, "... Auditing is the answer to human disability and travail. It can make life worth living. ... There is no limit to what good auditing can do. That is the first thing one should learn about it."

With all of this in mind, I have a few questions for you.

1. When was the last time you went in session, be it here in Portland or some other Scientology Organization?


2. Do you feel you handled what you wanted to handle in your auditing?


3. Have you been ill or had any accidents since the last time you were in session?


4. Would you like to get auditing in the Portland Org?


5. Do you know anyone else that would benefit from getting auditing?



Thank you very much! I look forward to hearing from you!


Much Love,
Daniel Klevit

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

In my box today. Feel free to answer the questions

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With all of this in mind, I have a few questions for you.​

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1. When was the last time you went in session, be it here in Portland or some other Scientology Organization?​

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2. Do you feel you handled what you wanted to handle in your auditing?​

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3. Have you been ill or had any accidents since the last time you were in session?​

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4. Would you like to get auditing in the Portland Org?​

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5. Do you know anyone else that would benefit from getting auditing?​

Oh, a survey! One of the stupidest moments in Scientology is when one Scientologist asks another Scientologist a "standard survey question". The person being surveyed knows that their answer must be:

-- on source​

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-- uptone​

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-- high havingness (i.e. "reaching" for their next service)​

If the person being asked responds with a non-standard answer, they would be harshly handled by ethics.

Ergo, it's not so much a survey as it is a diagnostic device for early disaffection detection.

Let me try to answer the questions and tell me if I would be "acknowledged with high ARC"---or routed to ethics and declared. LOL

1. When was the last time you went in session, be it here in Portland or some other Scientology Organization?​

An incredibly long time ago.​

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2. Do you feel you handled what you wanted to handle in your auditing? No. The auditing I had did not deliver even one of the Clear or OT abilities that were promised when I paid. ​

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3. Have you been ill or had any accidents since the last time you were in session? I don't know if this would be considered "ill" but I feel I became mentally ill after paying a fortune for hundreds of hours of the "modern science of mental illness" auditing. Likewise, I am not sure if this qualifies as an "accident" but after my last session I "accident"ally paid for another 25 hours, which they guaranteed would fix the previous 250 hours that caused me to have severely delusional thoughts that I was a fallen supernaturally powerful God that was haunted by alien ghosts. ​

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4. Would you like to get auditing in the Portland Org? Before I answer that I should probably mention my tone 40 pro-survival postulate that Scientology also gets auditing--- intensives of IRS auditing sufficient to reach EP (cult shut down by reason of tax fraud). ​

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5. Do you know anyone else that would benefit from getting auditing? Yes, particularly the sec checks focused on black ops, felonies and financial crimes. I think all Scientology leaders and it's top management execs should publicly be sec checked on Scientology's 24 hour cable channel. I think have "total certainty" that these auditing demonstrations would do wonders to raise the tone level & knowingness of the society!​

 

[wigee1]

Oh, a survey! One of the stupidest moments in Scientology is when one Scientologist asks another Scientologist a "standard survey question". The person being surveyed knows that their answer must be:

-- on source​

​

-- uptone​

​

-- high havingness (i.e. "reaching" for their next service)​

If the person being asked responds with a non-standard answer, they would be harshly handled by ethics.

Ergo, it's not so much a survey as it is a diagnostic device for early disaffection detection.

Let me try to answer the questions and tell me if I would be warmly thanked....or routed to ethics and declared. LOL

1. When was the last time you went in session, be it here in Portland or some other Scientology Organization?​

An incredibly long time ago.​

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2. Do you feel you handled what you wanted to handle in your auditing? No. The auditing I had did not deliver even one of the Clear or OT abilities that were promised when I paid. ​

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3. Have you been ill or had any accidents since the last time you were in session? I don't know if this would be considered "ill" but I feel I became mentally ill after paying a fortune for hundreds of hours of the "modern science of mental illness" auditing. Likewise, I am not sure if this qualifies as an "accident" but after my last session I "accident"ally paid for another 25 hours, which they guaranteed would fix the previous 250 hours that caused me to have severely delusional thoughts that I was a fallen supernaturally powerful God that was haunted by alien ghosts. ​

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4. Would you like to get auditing in the Portland Org? Before I answer that I should probably mention my tone 40 pro-survival postulate that Scientology also gets auditing--- intensives of IRS auditing sufficient to reach EP (cult shut down by reason of tax fraud). ​

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5. Do you know anyone else that would benefit from getting auditing? Yes, particularly the sec checks focused on black ops, felonies and financial crimes. I think all Scientology leaders and it's top management execs should publicly be sec checked on Scientology's 24 hour cable channel. I think these auditing demonstrations would do wonders to raise the tone level & knowingness of the society!​

i like the answer to #5.
Granitt

 

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The following religious scripture is provided through a
generous licensing donation from the Church of Hoaxology

excerpt from:
"THE DIABOLICAL DB's Dinky DICTIONARY" ​

GPM -noun: 1. Goals Problems Mass. 2. In Scientology, the relentless imposition of impossible goals causing unsolvable problems upon a large mass of inordinately gullible DBs (donor beings). (example: Ordering a DB to pay $500,000 to re-acquire their dormant godlike supernatural powers, which is then followed by another order to sell 7.2 billion other DBs on this planet the same "bridge package" and thereby "clear the planet"--after which they are given yet another order to "salvage this sector".)

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Posted by Sheila:
Yeh, I know what you're saying. Lots of exes still think they are here to save the planet. It's idealistic, but not limited to exscns, either. The tell is the "on this planet" or similar sci-fi limiter.
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LOL "sci-fi limiter" LOL

I like waking up to and sipping my first cup of edgy strong black coffee along with reading some edgy strong black humor on ESMB; I am doing both right now, thanks to your post, on this planet.

Just out of curiosity, do you also post on other planets? LOL

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post script: I just had a thought, there might be an ascending Hubbardian "scale" in reference to who has the highest STATUS and/or RANK within the cult, a metric defined by which advanced sci-fi LimiterTech[sup]tm[/sup] they are authorized to use. To wit:

CLEARS: Authorized to use the sci-fi limiter "on this planet"​

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OTS: Authorized to use the sci-fi limiter "in this sector"​

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CULT GURU: Authorized to use the sci-fi limiter "in this universe".​

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ASCENDED CULT GURU: Authorized to use the sci-fi limiter "at this Target" (i.e. Target 2); or, alternatively, "in this Bluebird Motorhome"​

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[JustSheila]

In my box today. I need help answering the questions.

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Dear Friend,
I wanted to take a moment to remind you of the amazing power of auditing. In HCO Bulletin of 15 January 1970, Issue I, The Uses of Auditing, LRH says:

“... People who have been ill for some time often only get well because they are audited.

“After any illness the person should be audited.
“After accidents and medical care people should be audited.

"Almost any human situation containing pain or misemotion should be handled by auditing.

"In the field of ability, auditing is king. The inability to study or to work or even to live can be handled in many ways."

Later in this reference, LRH goes on to say, "... Auditing is the answer to human disability and travail. It can make life worth living. ... There is no limit to what good auditing can do. That is the first thing one should learn about it."

With all of this in mind, I have a few questions for you.

1. When was the last time you went in session, be it here in Portland or some other Scientology Organization?


2. Do you feel you handled what you wanted to handle in your auditing?


3. Have you been ill or had any accidents since the last time you were in session?


4. Would you like to get auditing in the Portland Org?


5. Do you know anyone else that would benefit from getting auditing?



Thank you very much! I look forward to hearing from you!


Much Love,
Daniel Klevit

Oh goody! A survey!

1. The last time I was in session was on the PAC RPF. It took an entire year for them to finish my sec checks to route out because I was such an SP.

2. No. I would have been much happier to leave without any sec checks or RPF.

3. No, of course not. I am an immortal being who never ages, so I never get sick or have accidents. I'm 326 years old now but feel like a teenager.

4. I don't think so. Those people are crazy. They pretend they were around during the French Revolution or shook Jesus' hand and they're only like 25 years old.

5. This is a grammatical error. There is only someone else to benefit from auditing if there is somebody who would benefit and there isn't anybody. You can all benefit from an accredited college grammar course, though.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Cross posted from another thread discussing the Scientology "Ethics Conditions" and the concept of doing whatever was "The greatest good for the greatest number of Dynamics":

Originally posted by Enthetan
In the original Dianetics book, chapter on "The Four Dynamics", Hubbard talked about the optimum solution being something which would benefit the First and Second (self and family) as well as the Third and Fourth (group and mankind). So a course of action which benefited the Group, but left the individual in bad shape, was a non-optimal solution. Of course, this was before organized Scientology.
Once there were Orgs and SO, then it all got mutated into "the greatest good for Scientology"
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"The Greatest Good For Scientology" actually meant "The Greatest Good For The Greatest Guru"--either Hubbard or Miscavige, the infallible OTs saving the planet and singlehandedly salvaging this sector.

Scientology is all about the greatest glory, power and money for the guru atop the command channel. Yes, that is correct, spiritual salvation is best accomplished by Messiahs in military uniforms and people who smartly salute them and instantly execute their orders without insubordination or allowing their reactive mind to key in the evil purpose known as conscience.

Scientologists were, by definition, people convinced that the sociopathically avaricious and sadistically Conniving Cult Commanders in the C-Suite (Commodore/Cob) were selflessly doing all this to just to help them go free, with prosperity & justice for all. But first, you had to "flow all your money power uplines" to the big benevolent boss being---who would know what to do with it in order to help you, the degraded being.

lol

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[HelluvaHoax!]

Oh goody! A survey!

1. The last time I was in session was on the PAC RPF. It took an entire year for them to finish my sec checks to route out because I was such an SP.
--snipped--

LOL

Alas, the precarious pathos of SPs!

Because all Scientologists are SPs (Suppressive Preclears).

They just don't know they are suppressive.

And Senior Scientologists don't know they are suppressive.

Even their case supervisor, FSM and registrar don't know they are suppressive.

But, as their suppressive personality becomes unburdened as they undergo many hundreds of hours of auditing, it becomes obvious that they are quite evil, requiring that they be declared, disconnected & destroyed.

This is the miracle of Scientology--the breathtaking discovery that any being who does not respond to the 100% workable tech (by gaining the supernatural powers of a Clear & OT) is a "no-case-gain" SP; yet, the tech is so miraculously powerful that even SPs attain the Bridge "EP" (Evil Person).

All Scientologists (save the sole savior in control of the gold paper stock and mimeo machine) are evil. Thankfully, Scientology's OT leader is not DevT'd nor deterred from their spiritual mission here on Earth, which is the depositing of checks.

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[wigee1]

LOL

Alas, the precarious pathos of SPs!

Because all Scientologists are SPs (Suppressive Preclears).

They just don't know they are suppressive.

And Senior Scientologists don't know they are suppressive.

Even their case supervisor, FSM and registrar don't know they are suppressive.

But, as their suppressive personality becomes unburdened as they undergo many hundreds of hours of auditing, it becomes obvious that they are quite evil, requiring that they be declared, disconnected & destroyed.

This is the miracle of Scientology--the breathtaking discovery that any being who does not respond to the 100% workable tech (by gaining the supernatural powers of a Clear & OT) is a "no-case-gain" SP; yet, the tech is so miraculously powerful that even SPs attain the Bridge "EP" (Evil Person).

All Scientologists (save the sole savior in control of the gold paper stock and mimeo machine) are evil. Thankfully, Scientology's OT leader is not DevT'd nor deterred from their spiritual mission here on Earth, which is the depositing of checks.

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All turned to shit, because of that mime o machine, that's the why ,Granitt

 

[cleared cannibal]

I have had a particularly few stupid messages from Scn lately.

Maybe they can play this one at one the multi religious gatherings they are promoting to look like a regular religion.


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[HelluvaHoax!]

I have had a particularly few stupid messages from Scn lately.
Maybe they can play this one at one the multi religious gatherings they are promoting to look like a regular religion.
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Hi -----,
Have you ever wondered about the subject of God? For that matter, have you ever wondered why you aren’t able to use your inherent God-like abilities? What happened to them? How can you get them back? In the legendary Classic lecture Man the Animal & Man the God, LRH describes how to bring an individual all the way up to OT—a state similar to that of a god. And you'll learn how to reverse the traps and successive individuation which prevent you from reaching that state!

LOL

That truly is the core stupidity of the Hubbard cult. I'd like to take a moment to answer that Sea Org staff member's question:

QUESTION: "For that matter, have you ever wondered why you aren’t able to use your inherent God-like abilities?"

ANSWER: No. But I have wondered why YOU aren't able to use YOUR inherent God-like abilities, especially since you are charging people more than $500,000 for it. You've been in Scientology 40 years full time and you don't have any of those "god-like abilities" that you so blithely brag about. Did it ever occur to you that you are in the winning blithe condescending valence of a mentally ill con man in a naval costume--who pretends that God-like abilities are so easy that everyone on Scientology upper levels can perform miracles?

I have a sinking feeling that the letter registrar would not answer my question, but instead refer me to Ethics for daring to challenge his OT God-like powers. It's considered a "High Crime" and "Suppressive Act" in the cult to doubt anything an OT[sup]1[/sup] says.



[sup]1[/sup] OT -noun: A person in Scientology who has a certificate that bears both their name and word "OT", written in fancy letters.

 

[Enthetan]

I have a sinking feeling that the letter registrar would not answer my question, but instead refer me to Ethics for daring to challenge his OT God-like powers. It's considered a "High Crime" and "Suppressive Act" in the cult to doubt anything an OT[sup]1[/sup] says.



[sup]1[/sup] OT -noun: A person in Scientology who has a certificate that bears both their name and word "OT", written in fancy letters.

It wouldn't get to the letter reg. The Dir Comm has the job of opening and reading all incoming mail, and sending any "entheta" to either Ethics or OSA.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

It wouldn't get to the letter reg. The Dir Comm has the job of opening and reading all incoming mail, and sending any "entheta" to either Ethics or OSA.

That explains why the news of Hubbard's death could not be sent simply as: "RON DIED".

Because that would have been entheta and it would have been re-routed to ethics---and in 2018 (27 years after he died) Scientologists would still not know about it and they'd still be writing "letters to Ron".

The handling was to very slightly alter the message from "RON DIED" to the almost identical: RON IS SO OT THAT HE NO LONGER NEEDS A BODY.

That would have bee a super theta win!

That's how the cult cons Scientologists into giving a standing ovation for the win of someone dying. LOL