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Discussion in 'Tony Ortega' started by RSS Feed, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. RSS Feed

    RSS Feed RSS Feeder Bot

    There is a new post up at the Underground Bunker


    [Scientology leader David Miscavige has some explaining to do to Rev. Dr. Chip Murray]

    We’ve told you that Scientologys “grass roots” effort it calls the “STAND League” is a fake. But even we were stunned when we learned that Scientology’s astroturf attack on Leah Remini’s A&E series has allegedly engaged in an outright fraud that has [[.......]

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  2. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    As Missionary Kid commented at the Bunker:
    "A fake letter from a fake organization that's a front group for a fake religion."
  3. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    What great detective work!!


    I hope this goes to Court.

    I had posted on another thread last year, here on ESMB about I believe, the St. Louis Scientology Org using Trade Marks of the National Football League in their LRH Birthday Game posters.... I did call the NFL about this....but was pretty much blown off. I guess I should have put it in a letter in written form.
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  4. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

  5. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Some poor Sea Org member had to be put under some pretty intense pressure to be desperate enough to falsify this letter to Disney. :ohmy:
  6. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    I think it is telling that it was on "discontinued letterhead". So whoever did this has been going around collecting blank letterhead from people and organizations that participate in interfaith activities for so long that the letterhead they have is no longer used?

    Let's remind our readers...

    In December 1972, the church launched a new attack called Operation Dynamite. That month, a woman ostensibly soliciting funds for United Farm Workers stole a quantity of stationery from Cooper's apartment. A few days later, the New York Church of Scientology "received" two anonymous bomb threats. The following May, Cooper was indicted for making the bomb threats and arraigned for a federal grand jury. The threats had been written on her stationery, which was marked with her fingerprints.
    The charges were eventually dropped in 1975 with the filing of a Nolle prosequi order by the local US Attorney's office, but it was not until the fall of 1977 that the FBI discovered that the bomb threats had been staged by the Guardian's Office.[5] A contemporary memorandum sent between two Guardian's Office staff noted on a list of jobs successfully accomplished: "Conspired to entrap Mrs. Lovely into being arrested for a felony which she did not commit. She was arraigned for the crime."[8]
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  7. HelluvaHoax!

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    Yes, and according to Dr. Hubbard's technology--a being only commits OVERTS as a solution to a PROBLEM.

    THE PROBLEM: A downstat graph on a wall somewhere inside a remote cult compound that represents the imaginary destruction of the cult's imaginary enemies using an imaginary technology resulting in imaginary wins and imaginary planetary clearing.
    THE OVERT: It's not the felonies that Scientology committed against an innocent whistleblower Paulette Cooper. The overt is getting caught whilst intentionally "....creating a world without WITH insanity and criminality". ​
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  8. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    Worse, it's forgery and Identity theft.

    Scientology just couldn't take being out of the news. We just broke February.
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  9. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    It looks like STAND can soon be SIT.*

    * Scientology In Trouble
  10. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    hmm, how about: Scn Heaped In Trouble?
  11. Irayam

    Irayam Patron with Honors

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  12. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Defense against

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  13. triumph

    triumph Silver Meritorious Patron

    Daily Wire
    USC Forced To Investigate After Church Of Scientology Allegedly Forges Letter From Professor

    The University of Southern California has been forced to open an investigation after discovering that the Church of Scientology may have forged a letter from one of its professors, begging Disney Corporation CEO Bob Iger to censor Leah Remini's Scientology expose series, "Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath."


    USC Fellow Dr. Cecil “Chip” Murray -- a longtime friend of the Church of Scientology -- appears to be a key member of this "interfaith coalition," and, according to a Scientology press release issued recently, authored a very terse and demanding letter to Iger, on USC letterhead, about Remini's program, alleging that Disney is "complicit" in "violence" that has come about as a result of Remini's investigations, and accusing Disney of "inciting hatred" against religion.

    more@ link
  14. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Wouldn't this be using the US Mail to commit a crime?

    This is serious crime.
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  15. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    A report from Robin Athlyn Thompson.



    The Murray letter currently on the STAND website is below. To read the letter you may have to enlarge it. I'll note the letter is not technically on the letterhead of the First AME Church of Los Angeles (FAME). The letterhead does note Rev. Dr. Murray's status as "Pastor Emeritus First AME Church of Los Angeles."

  16. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Normally yes.

    But within Scientology, fraudulent activities such as this are a religious sacrament. ;)
  17. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    More tweets by Robin Athlyn Thompson. I believe these were in response to my observation about the letterhead.


  18. Jenyfurrr

    Jenyfurrr Patron

    I’m curious if she’ll share her conversation with the pastor she mentioned or if her tenacity has prompted him to finally make a statement, so she’s giving him time to do so. Either way, thank you Com I/C for keeping this out there and thankful for Robin continuing to pursue. This will be interesting to follow for sure!
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  19. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    There is a Fake Hate Crimes Website. I came across this website recently and don't know anything about it....or who is running it.

    But it seems to me that after reading that letter would qualify to be added to the website.

    Is there a data base of Fake Scientology hate crimes? All the "Fair Game" they do....there should be.
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  20. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter