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What is up with "Pitbull"/OSA?

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by HappyGirl, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. KnightVision

    KnightVision Gold Meritorious Patron

    If you are proposing here "A Fair Game", I honorably accept your invitation. :rose:
  2. Pitbull

    Pitbull Patron with Honors

    Hidebound! Wow! What a cool word. I just had to look that one up.
    I hope you don't mind if I use it.

    I do think that hits the nail on the head. In scientology, many act in the most HIDEBOUND, conservative, insular and inflexible manner.

    No so much different than some on the outside. Or those who have left Scientology.

    Some might say they became HIDEBOUND because of Scientology, others might say they were attracted to Scientology because they were HIDEBOUND to begin with.
  3. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    Fluffy is a walking dictionary with an extensive and wonderful vocabulaire. :yes:
  4. gomorrhan

    gomorrhan Gold Meritorious Patron

    It's all that study tech.
  5. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

  6. Vinaire

    Vinaire Sponsor

    Good observation!

  7. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    Thanks, of course you can use it...

    I love books and words. I use a lot of antiquated phrases because my Mom bought me a lot of Edwardian era children's books when I was a kid.
  8. KnightVision

    KnightVision Gold Meritorious Patron

    2: having an inflexible or ultraconservative character

    Being HIDEBOUND does manifest itself in a wide range of people, and to that effect it often causes those affected to minimize their experiences and other possibilities. Speaking specifically about Hidebound Scientologists and their religion, Scientology (granted there are exceptions to the rule), it is quite singular in promoting itself as a philosophy that will set one free of "HIDEBOUND" mentalities while in actuality it covertly uses TRANSFERENCE to transfer one's hidebound ignorance into a dangerously singular Scientology hidebound viewpoints.

    As Pixie has so deeply expressed in her thread "All or Nothing", the negative effects of that conditioning are difficult to contend with and ultimately unravel. Exies appear quite capable of questioning their hidebound operators and underlying motives and training. When they do... they are cheered and applauded by their group. It's quite difficult to find a HIDEBOUND SCIENTOLOGIST who is willing to look at their inflexible beliefs about Scientology. To do so they would be judged "unethical" by their group. That's the HUGH difference between the two regarding the subject of being affected by HIDEBOUND.
  9. Cat's Squirrel

    Cat's Squirrel Gold Meritorious Patron

    A woman after my own heart, I do too.

    Do you have a 3 volume Merriam Websters Dictionary as well, or a 2 volume Oxford?
  10. Vinaire

    Vinaire Sponsor

    Good post!

  11. Pitbull

    Pitbull Patron with Honors

    Yes indeed! Vinaire!

    Especially being that I've had three glasses of Vin this evening.
  12. Vinaire

    Vinaire Sponsor

    Does that mean you are not being yourself?

    How often does that happen to you?

  13. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor


  14. Vinaire

    Vinaire Sponsor

    Well that is the issue I was presented with.

  15. Pitbull

    Pitbull Patron with Honors

    Or do my really mean "selves?"
  16. Vinaire

    Vinaire Sponsor

    Numbers are an illusion.

  17. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    I think the one we have here at the house is the two volume World Book dictionary. :)
  18. scientrollogy

    scientrollogy Patron with Honors

    here pitbull

    are you the lot poking around in our other forums?
  19. gomorrhan

    gomorrhan Gold Meritorious Patron

    I have the Oxford two volume, a Merriam Webster two volume, and three "dinky" dictionaries.

    I started collecting dictionaries before I was a scientologist, and used to spend hours in "word chains" when I was in grade-school until I could understand encyclopedia articles regarding things that stumped me in school that day. It got to the point where I was correcting my teachers' spelling, word-choice, sentence structure, and conceptual understanding. In fifth grade. I was beaten frequently (they were monks and nuns) for this sort of insolence, but I think I really did have a better conceptual understanding of the materials I studied than about 85% of my teachers.
  20. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    You were beaten up by nuns, too, eh? Man, those ahem SISTERS OF MERCY (bwahahaha!) sure could be assholes. Some were cool, though, but there were some real psychos in their ranks teaching little kiddies.