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Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by JerSolo, Oct 30, 2015.

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  1. Gib

    Gib Crusader

  2. Gib

    Gib Crusader

  3. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    as Infinite, and even Heinlein, would say, got any docs or STFU. :hysterical:

    show me a clear?

    ps: by docs I don't mean a success story, LOL
  4. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    If you don't mind me asking, when did you join Scientology and how long were you in?
  5. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    I don't mind you asking, Veda, But I never joined, I was a paying customer. I never intended to join anything, especially some religion, stick a finger down my throat.

    When it first begin for me was the second half of the 1980's. Recall the Dianetics commercials on TV, the ones with the black background and white lettering. Yep, started by Jefferson Hawkins.

    So I read Dianetics, there was a little card in that book said something like "come in for a free auditing session". So I did, called the local org, address & phone in the book. I figured I give it a try.

    My first free session, all I remember is I cried, hey I says to myself, a secondary, I guess it works. After the hour long session, my contact at the org says I need to continue and you can buy 5 hours for $50. I said cool, (I wanted to go clear).

    Finish that 5 hour block, then bought a 12 1/2 hour block for $160, then bought several 25 hour blocks for $360 I believe.

    Then one day my contact, reg, ask me whats ruining my life. I tell her. So I end up doing a Life Repair, something like $160 as well. That sucked, it was weird, holding these cans, and the person asking me the same question over and over, I'm like to myself, I just answered you. Anyways, got thru that, and was sold to do the Purif. I thought cool, I get to get back in shape again. Finished that, I liked it. Although I didn't do a bunch of hard drugs, I had drunk a good share of beer during my college years, which was shortly before this all.

    While those actions occurred, why my reg got me to buy some books, New Slant on Life, and then POW. I was a little miffed at my reg for trying to sell me those books since I wanted nothing to do with scientology, never heard of it, I only wanted dianetics & clear. Ended up reading those books and even applied POW confusion & the stable datum, the secret to efficiency - do work now, and had greats wins at work, even got promoted.

    I ended up reading all the books and all the lectures available to a public person at the time. I listened to the PDC's, Pheonix lectures, Study tapes, everything. And when I was done with that, I started reading the green vols, I read KSW on my own at home and thought WOW, this is it, I found the holy grail.

    Mind you my prior education results were strong in the sciences, math, practical, I was a flunky in english, history, philosophy - I had to no interest in the past, I wanted the future.

    So what did I join. Well I joined the IAS in the beginning only because it gave me a 6 month free membership, but only because I got a 10% discount. And then I joined staff thinking I could go up the bridge, go clear, and at the same time help. Seemed ideal at the time, early 1990's.

    Fast forward,

    When I got the Debbie Cook email, I started researching the internet intensively. And 6 months later I was no longer a paying customer and started posting here after much reading of other philosophy, peoples stories, reviewing my own timetrack in scientology and really looking at those I know who are "clear" and "OT", and comparing.

    And when I found out Hubbard, in his own words used Rhetoric & read Le Bon, and reading the Heinlein letters, and further research (sublime rhetoric), why I found the truth. I was thoroughly persuaded (w/o proof) to join the winning team, and we had a enemy, LOL.

    And Veda, if you don't mind me asking, when did you join scientology, and how long where you in?
  6. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    You said that you never joined and then, later, you said you did join.
    This is confusing.
  7. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    I joined those two organizations for perceived mutual benefit.

    1. IAS for 10% discount, although I didn't consider myself a scientologist at the time, just a discount, doesn't mean I'm a member.

    2. And I joined staff for mutual benefit. If I sign contract to work for the organization for 2 1/2 years, play by the rules, and get auditing and training for free, why all is good.
  8. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    What different would you have to do to 'join Scientology' ?
  9. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    I suppose one could just make a conscious decision to join. Like read a book, or check out the place and then say I want to join. I guess like going to a local church and saying I want to join.

    Probably most people just wanted to check it out, and then the next you know you're deep into it. What can I say, I just wanted to toot my horn in my response to Veda, not argue or anything.

    I just remembered, after my free 6 month membership expired, I never bought a yearly or lifetime membership. I joined staff and didn't have to buy a membership or maybe it was overlooked, don't. At the time there were no IAS hawkers like today. And when I got married I automatically got a lifetime membership since the spouse was one, don't ask me how, nor did I argue or want to open up a can of worms.
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  10. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    I've gone over that many times. Public person. Joined 1970. Trained and audited. Left 1976. 1984: Audited at a break away mission, all levels - mainly to see what it was like auditing outside the organization. Then explored other areas of Scientology - Fair Game tech, brainwashing tech, FBI docs, etc.

    The point is, Why drive a newbie away? At least allow the person a few posts.

    He's not in such a different place than we were not that long ago.

    'You now talking to you then' thread:
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  11. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    A friendly seller of bridges

    Hi Simply Revolting, I noticed your "LOL." Looks like you have some "mis-emotion," in which case, I'd like to "indicate the by passed charge." Was that a "withhold" of yours that was "missed"? Are you really only here to covertly plant commercials for the Free Zone? If so, you're misapplying LRH's Propaganda and Intelligence tech by mixing your "overt" (visible) "LOL" with your "covert action." That would be a "flub," so off to "cramming" with you. :naughty:

    Oh, never mind. :carryon:

    I was being tolerant and giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    And I still am giving you the benefit of the doubt, and I notice you're still lurking here, so perhaps you'll see some things that will help you. I hope so. :)

  12. Simply Revolting

    Simply Revolting New Member

    Veda. The reason for the LOL was when I read the first response to Gib I thought I could see where you were guiding things i.e. to make a statement or advice whatever, and yes I thought it was done very deftly.

    Then your reply, well...

    Clearly we should agree to disagree.