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Yesterday, Today and ?????

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by phenomanon, Nov 17, 2015.

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  1. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    Deleted on request.

    M2
     
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  2. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Hang in there.

    I assume you've already told him, in no uncertain terms, how you feel about him taking your "stuff" down. If not, you should.
     
  3. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Jana, don't post here sweetheart, this thread can be seen by anyone. Start a new one in the members only section where he won't be able to read it.

    :rose:

    Edit: I'm sorry, I'm so fucking angry I can't think straight, There's nothing to stop him becoming a member.
     
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  4. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    PMed you, Phen. :bighug:
     
  5. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Love to you, Jana.

    :heartflower:

    Paul
     
  6. uncover

    uncover Gold Meritorious Patron

    You have to go with time and fight back..... invite some muslim refugees to your house.... maybe he will understand faster when THEY explain him which side his bread is buttered on..... :coolwink:

    And you should try to see the things more positive:
    maybe he gave the El Con Hubbard-stuff only away because he doesn´t want to have it in your house anymore ? :confused2:

    BTW: for what does he need your quantum ? Is he still exorcizing imaginary space cooties ?
     
  7. Wants2Talk

    Wants2Talk Silver Meritorious Patron

    Let me know when your are taking man applications!:eyeroll:
     
  8. Hypatia

    Hypatia Pagan

    Wow. I don't know exactly what to tell you. One thing I do know from reading (and enjoying) your posts is that you are highly trained in Scientology "tech". You know more than most people, I believe. So that gives you a good perspective on the dangers and problems with it.

    Maybe approach it from that perspective with him? Just discuss that and back burner the fact that you don't approve, that he appropriated your belongings without your permission- save that stuff for another time.

    I just think that one of the very best things about knowing someone who's very experienced and learned in a subject is that they can clue you in to the pitfalls better than just about anyone else.

    God bless and let us know how it goes. Pulling for you.
     
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  9. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    o thank you so much for telling me not to post here. I would be grateful if someone would tell me how to get it erased. (he is a lurking member, Stratti, so it's possible he can read it even in Member's Only)).
    It was a big mistake for me to post this here. It is sure not in my best interest.
     
  10. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

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    Yikes! Hubbard, trans sepulcrum.

    Hubbard, from beyond the grave. He's dead 3 decades, yet he reaches out and exerts his diabolical influence on the living.

    Woe be to all humans who fall within "the Commodore's" sinister gravitational pull.

    Sorry to hear your hubby is getting sucked back into the zany madness of e-meters and chasing/erasing invisible charge, engrams and galactic demons. How utterly annoying & exasperating that must be!

    I would feel exactly the same if a loved one went out in the yard every day with a divining rod to search for buried gold.
    [​IMG]



    To spoil their little daydream or not to spoil their little daydream--that is the question.

    My answer would be to tell them the truth and let the chips fall where they may. Knowing myself, i would be certain that at some point (even if i tried to take the high road and say little at this time) I would eventually BLURT OUT exactly what I really thought of their little DOUSING-ETICS charade in the back yard. Since I know I could never avoid telling them exactly what I thought, I would just "get it over with" as soon as possible and lay it all out on the line. I believe Scientologists call that a "briefing" or an "R-Factor".

    While I am dispensing gratuitous advice, let me also advise you to not attend any of my marriage seminars, although I am one of the most experienced persons around with multi-marriages to boast of. LOL
     
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  11. Deeana

    Deeana Patron with Honors

    Why not contact one of the Moderators and request the OP be removed?

    In the meanwhile, please, please take whatever steps are needed to secure the finances. This $cientology bull shyte is like a bad virus that hides out. Plus it is not unknown for people who are getting nearer to death to return to or even seek out a new religion. So there's that.

    Lastly, I am on my own. Not by choice, but by widowhood. I am not unhappy. And I don't hate men or anything like that. But I knew the day I buried my second husband that I would not ever be married again. Nor have I desired to be in a relationship. There is a lot of freedom involved in living life by yourself and doing what you want when you want.

    I am not in any way trying to encourage you to break up your marriage. Perhaps just wanting to reinforce that many women - and men - make the decision that, for various reasons, they prefer the single life.

    eta: I read HellavaHoax's post. I'm like he is. I'd just come out with it and put it on the line. "It's me or the FZ. Period." The FZ is as much of a scam as the Cof$ and anyone with a bit of sense knows it. The whole thing about "the tech, the tech" is ludicrous. The e-meter is a farce. LRH was a criminal, a scammer, a bigamist, a con man and an out and out nut case.

    It does not matter that he might have had a good idea once in a great while. Most of those were stolen from someone else, anyways. He was an awful, awful man and why would anyone want to devote their lives to his teachings?

    It does sound like your husband is searching for something. But if that something involves getting rid of his body thetans, you must prepare yourself to move away from this.
     
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  12. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    o yes. I didn't hold anything back. I Hate when that happens. lol
     
  13. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon


    Thank you, sweet friend. That means a lot to me.
     
  14. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon


    Yeah...it's a bitch, ain't it!
    H's name came up twice in our long conversation this afternoon.
    Thank you Paul. From my heart.
     
  15. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon


    That's what he is on course for. OT111.:duh::grouch:
     
  16. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon


    :hifive:
     
  17. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    You can clue a man in to a pitfall, but you can't make him avoid the fall.
     
  18. Hypatia

    Hypatia Pagan

    I guess you're right. But sometimes people get talked out of doing Scientology.

    In any event, I'm wishing you all the best.
     
  19. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon



    "Utterly annoying and exasperating" is an apt description.
    I blew big time.
    I sure don't like being me when I lose my temper.It is not a pretty sight.
     
  20. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    I love being a single woman. No problem there. I am in control of the finances . No problem.
    He is starting OT111. I asked him to replace the batteries in my Mark 6 so tat I can keep the house clean. He sees me as suppressive :duh:
    Sounds like you are recommending disconnection. That came up in the long discussion we had this afternoon. ( my Daughter)
    It might come to that, but the temper tantrum I threw scared him good. He explained himself for 6 hours. I detest this drama in my life.