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Yet another Scientology library scampaign

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by CommunicatorIC, Jun 14, 2014.

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Yet another Scientology library scampaign.

    From the South African Independent Scientology blog, Scientologists getting back in comm. As usual for that blog, the article is well researched, well documented and as a result... long. Some may be tempted to say TL;DR. You may want to refrain from doing so. The article is worth it.

    Yet another library scampaign
  2. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Have you seen the comments?

    There's a discussion, begun by Dan351, about how Miscavige is violating the HCOPL 'Ethics and Study Tech' by making books such as 'Scientology 8-8008' available to raw public.

    Anyone disseminating out-gradient information, according to this policy, could find himself in big trouble and headed towards becoming a Declared Suppressive Person.

    This blog seems to have tightened its controls on comments as not a soul is disagreeing with the keeping policy working people.

    I didn't even know it was a suppressive act to give a copy of 'Scientology 8-8008' to a humanoid.

    Learn something new everyday!

    That's a whole new aspect to the "Which Scientology book snagged you?" thread.

    "Which out-gradient book, given to you by an off policy, out ethics, DB, caused you to have misunderstood words, and out-reality, and started you on a dwindling spiral of nattering and squirreling?"

    Oy vey.
  3. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Hey, Look!!

    Veda wrote a book!!

  4. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron

    Even if this campaign was 100% legitimate (and those squadrons of pigs are going through their pre-flight checks) how could anyone seriously believe that putting books written by a colonialist, who thought he was Cecil Rhodes, in African libraries is a good idea.
  5. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    Scientology never allows a good working scam to go to waste. What caused their affluence can still cause their affluence and ya know what? They're right!

    Frankly, the people that continue to fall for this or who know these books don't actually end up on the library shelves and yet they still keep contributing, well, they're fucking idiots.
  6. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Are you sayin' I shouldn't send this check in?
  7. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    No. Of course not. Here's my address:

  8. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    On this point, when I was in, the DSA and her husband (the now ethics officer) at the Chicago Org would talk to people about how they knew these libraries didn't want these books, that they were sold off for a few dollars or thrown in the dumpster. They not only knew it but had lots of proof. They still kept donating. They still kept encouraging others to do so. They're still in pushing the bullshit as we speak. WTF?

    I guess some people are wired to live comfortably with cognitive dissonance. I don't get it.
  9. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Of course, if one really wanted to BPI Ron's tech for massive dissemination all of the books and lectures would be downloadable for free.

    Now, as a Scientologist, go in and suggest this as a campaign. I'm willing to wager that this will be acked with a response somewhere below Enthusiasm on the Tone Scale.
  10. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    No kidding. Well, if these really were true donations, Bridge should just collect the actual cost of donation (sans the profit margin). But no, they have to add yet another scam on top of this one by saying, "your donations (understood at full-on profit price) help us to fund all these other vital planetary salvage campaigns (that we're going to ask you to fund again directly anyway)....yada, yada, bullshit......
  11. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    Pulping? LOL Karmic irony and justice all rolled into one.

    "The perfect answer to a question is the question itself." (L. Ron Hubbard)

    Scientology's pulp fiction written by a pulp fiction writer recycles itself into......pulp.

    "The perfect answer to a cult is the cult itself." (Hell Ruin Hoaxard)
  12. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    If you think about it, this library campaign is like a cosmic rape.

    The entire world library system has been FORCED to deal with these unwanted advances for years. I guess the survey tech is only used when it's convenient.

    Had they surveyed the libraries before embarking upon this fiasco, they would have gotten a resounding, "Hell no!" but just like everything else in Scientology, this campaign is just a pretense. COB couldn't care less if these books get and stay in the libraries. What the libraries want is completely irrelevant.

    Scientology's hubris is obnoxious, totally inconsiderate and really beyond the pale.
  13. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron



    I can't believe it, I do, but I can't.
    It is so terribly sad, how many mobile eye clinics could have been funded and a real difference made to people's lives.
  14. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


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  15. afaceinthecrowd

    afaceinthecrowd Gold Meritorious Patron

    By happenstance, I know some of the story of how the El Ron Books in Libraries Campaigns came about. I've posted some of the following on ESMB in a few Posts here and there a few years ago.

    Somewhere, IIRC on an El Ron Lecture Tape, PAB or Issue, there's a short mention about how an Auditor in a Field Practice should place a DMSMH in their local Library with a business card tape inside. Years later...four or so decades ago...not long after the opening of the FLB but after El Ron had fled to SoCAl, a couple or so FSO Crew members happened across this El Ron advice and cooked up a way to boom the FSO Book Sales, be "Upstat, On Source" heroes and make extra personal dough from book commissions.

    The recently established FLB was filled to the rafters with Scn Whales form all over the world, especially the US. An unwritten and unauthorized "Pilot Project" by was started by the aforementioned FSO Crew members to Reg FCCI's to donate El Ron's "Beginner" books to be shipped to Libraries where they lived...DOT, DMSMH, SOS, NSOL, FOT and SA. This was immediately so successful that the "pitch" was increased for multiple copies of the "Beginner" books and, not long afterwards, to complete El Ron "Libraries" and then multiple sets of El Ron Libraries.

    Around 5 or 6 weeks into this program, one of the Folks involved in the unannounced project came across another brief, long forgotten about El Ron comment, in one of Hisself's voluminous Issues, that if El Ron C/Sed a Case, gave a Session to someone or personally autographed something the "donation" would be with a premium (I think it was 3 or maybe even as much as 5 times), and CSW was sent on the SO #1 Line by one of the Folks to El Ron, referencing Hisself's years ago statement along with a copy of DMSMH with request to be autographed. The book came back a few weeks later "signed" by El Ron (undoubtedly, the CSW never reached Hisself but the book was signed "L. Ron Hubbard"--by someone in the SO #1 Unit). The book was immediately sold at a 3-5X premium to an FCCI and, within a few hours, droves of FCCI Whales were lined up wanting to purchase an "LRH Personally Autographed" DMSMH. More DMSMH's were sent up the SO #1 line and came back "signed" by El Ron".

    Within a few months, the FSO Weekly Book Sales Income was more than the Weekly GI of more than half of the CL IV Service Orgs. However, at that time, the Flag Bureaux "Senior Management" was in complete chaos with key Crew being "ripped off" literally overnight to go "Over the Rainbow" (what is now Int Base), and replaced (if at all) with green Flag Recruits and/or SO Crew from outer SO Orgs ripped off and thrown "into the breech" with no clue re: "Senior Management" or running an Org. Nearly every FSO Stat was "booming" at that time and almost every FLB Crew Member that had Tech Training was being, overnight, "Musical Chaired" into FSO. The booming Book Sales were a "minor point" lost in all frenzy--lost to everyone except Ken Delderfield. Ken was on an "El Ron Mission" to produce the "State of the Art" "Green and Red Volumes" and R&D Volumes and had come up with the idea of producing a high price "Limited Edition" Leather Bound Collectors Set of all El Ron Books and all the Volumes.

    "Deld" noticed the FSO Book Sales Stats, knew that the FCCI's represented the "Target Market" for the "Collectors Editions", "pulled the string" and had a meeting with the Folks that had come up with and were running the "unofficial" Pilot Project.

    A few months later, FCCI's were not only paying HUGE bucks for (not yet in production) "El Ron Limited Edition, Leather Bound, Collectors Sets" of all the El Ron Books and Volumes, a number of some of them were paying the El Ron Autograph "Premium" for Titles of their choice and a few (OMF'nG!) bought the entire "Package" of EVERY "Limited Edition Leather Bound Collectors Set" book and volume (for which Deld had found a machine that would "autograph" each of them "personally").

    Eventually, out of this, was born the "Library Donation Campaigns" and other "Donation" insanities.

    IMHO, the genus of all this ceaseless "'Personally' By, From and for El Ron" frenetic fleecing of the flocking flocked flock was the Apollo Stars' "Power of Source" Album and I wrote tens of thousands of words a few years ago on ESMB's Shooting Stars Thread chronicling why that's my "Take".


    EDIT PS: Deld was one of a few folks at that particular that time that had a fairly direct "line" to El Ron. Deld's Mission was important to Hisself as the highest percentage of dough that could "cleanly" go directly to El Ron from Scn was from HCO Book Sales of El Ron copyrighted material. The new volumes, and especially the "Limited Edition Leather Bound Collectors" books and volumes were gonna make El Ron buckets of "clean" dough. I honestly think that El Ron had forgotten about the Library placement and "Personally Autographed premium", and when Deld "refreshed" Hisself's memory about that, "came up with the 'Bright Idea" and ordered Folks to do what they were already doing.
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2014
  16. Boojuum

    Boojuum Silver Meritorious Patron

    Sindy makes an excellent point!

    The Donate Books Program of the COS has the erroneous idea that librarians simply put donated books on the shelf. They don't. Librarians get free books from other religions as well and FWIK most of those books are trashed.

    Librarians in most public libraries are specialists who have limited shelf space. The "collections" are monitored with care usually by someone with an advanced degree in Library Science. Think of your local librarian, who is under continual scrutiny for scarce public funds, opening yet another box of Scientology books. Is she going to go to the trouble of cataloging and shelving books in limited space that she/he didn't ask for?

    The yearly book sale at my local public library is impressively large. It's heartbreaking to see all the fabulous and well read books, magazines and videos that are cleared out because the library needs the space for new books, magazines and videos. Unless a library is trying to impress patrons with size, you probably won't see many Scieno books on a library shelf, except for DMSMH.

    What is impressive to me, is the MAGNITUDE of the idiocy. SO members having to stay up month after month selling Basic Book packages to a public that doesn't need or want them. So much wasted energy.
  17. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    Great post. Yes, it's obscene and surreal.