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Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by Churchill, Jul 17, 2014.

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  1. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on



    It's phenomenally remarkable that Scientology forces people to pay for the privilege of being slaves, marks and useful idiots.

    Freeloader Bill: Person joins staff expecting to go OT as part of the promised "exchange in abundance". As ink on contract is drying, BAIT & SWITCH begins. Staff paid less than poverty level wages, worked to death, beaten like a mule for "more production", fed crap, not allowed the DevT called sleep. Zombie state ensues. Zombie, out of sheer self-preservation leaves. Zombie is sent bill for tens of thousands of dollars or more for "freeloading"; when in fact they worked 100+ hours per week for pennies per hour. And the Zombie never even went OT. Yet the zombie is "out ethics". This is like sadistically beating a slave and then charging them $25,000 for a ride to the local emergency room.

    And there, obviously, are other major components of Scn that are identical to the freeloader scam, but they are called something else. Let's name just a few examples.......







    They all have something in common with the Freeloader Debt scam:

    Each one of these meticulously crafted donation rackets charges the mark exorbitant sums ("donations") get on a Routing Form which defrauds them and then sends them off to write a glowing Success Story and get their photo taken of them grinning while holding an oversized "Humanitarian" certificate over their heads.

    Summary: Scientology scams unsuspecting individuals out of their money and then convinces them that it's a win. Ergo, standing ovations for Hubbard, Miscavige and others who steal their money, making Scientologists some of the most pathetically gullible people "on this planet". And yes, I was one of them. (gulp, cringe, wtf was I thinking?! lololol)
  2. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    You think that a person who gets paid fifty cents an hour, works seven days a week, get no vacation, lives in a dorm, eats rice and beans and buys their own uniform is a freeloader.
  3. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Here is another way to look at it.

    If a Sea Org member gets paid $50. per week = $2600. per year
    If food costs $10. per day = $3650. per year
    Water, electricity, gas, sewer, medical, TP, misc. @ $5. per day = $1825. per year
    Total cost per Sea Org member per year $8075.

    Note: Pay may be closer to $20. - $30. per week and food could be closer to $3.00 per day and miscellaneous could be highly overstated but I would rather err on the high side for purposes of making my point.

    The US National Average Income per household in 2015 was $48,099.

    If you subtract the cost of a Sea Org member from average income = $40,024. net benefit to the Church in labor.

    $40,024. x 4300 Sea Org members = $172,103,200. annual net benefit in labor to the Church.

    Even if you cut that figure in half for sake of discussion it is still a disgusting figure.

    Auditors are a source of revenue. You do not divert auditing resources for staff. Staff receive admin training. Auditing also requires that staff receive proper food and sleep and have in-ruds (no immediate problems that would interfere with an auditing session). Meeting the criteria for making staff sessionable diverts resources from production.

    I’d also ad that historically the auditing of crew has a nasty tendency to result in an expanded RPF so crew and management end up having a tacit understanding that auditing isn’t really needed so much after all.


    The National cost for rent is a little under $1000. per month if we wanted to back this into the equation but the average income is based on a 40 hour work day and Sea Org members work closer to 80.
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2016
  4. HelluvaHoax!

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    Cool cost and "exchange" analysis defining the life of a Sea Org member. . . .

  5. Irayam

    Irayam Patron with Honors

    Thank you Mimsey.
    "Album"... This is my French language that shows the tip of his nose... In french, a comic book is called an album.
    Anyway, I'm a little sad that there is no real comic book with the Freaks Brother in scientology!

  6. Irayam

    Irayam Patron with Honors

  7. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    It's not so much that DM has increased the torture levels, as much as DM has more confidence that he can get away with personally abusing people. By the time the Sea Org started, LRH was a fat, out of shape, old man. He was too cowardly to personally slap anybody around (using his Messengers whenever he wanted to have somebody spat on), because he couldn't be sure whether his target would finally get fed up, grab him, and snap his neck. DM works out more.
  8. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Right. And if seniors really believed that auditing would make their juniors more able to get higher stats, they would have told them "You have session tomorrow morning. Go home now and get some sleep."
  9. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    For a brief respite in their 80 hour week, OSA ESMB watchers got to claim points for reading The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers looking for the Scientology episode.
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2016
  10. Churchill

    Churchill Gold Meritorious Patron

    ...your "post" in Scientology is to monitor the internet and gather information on critics, and

    you report your actual "stats" for this activity.
  11. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Un album bédé (bande dessinée)???

    Mon français il sort tout le mignon nez au complet :biggrin:

  12. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    It's a good gig - stats always up.
  13. Irayam

    Irayam Patron with Honors

    Oui! Un album de BD!!
    Que c'est bon de perdre son temps avec une BD!
    It's so good to lose its time with a comic book!
  14. Hypatia

    Hypatia Pagan

    You get beaten, starved, ridiculed, made to clean floors with your tongue and you go back for more.
  15. Churchill

    Churchill Gold Meritorious Patron

    you're afraid to ask SIRI, "Is Scientology a dangerous cult?"

    (Go ahead and try it...)
  16. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    Interestingly the only way they can be upstat is if Scientology is having flap after flap.

    It's a good thing that happens to be the case.
  17. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    If you are on the Freewinds, winning the so theta place , thinking that you are in the safest environement on earth while the outer world is unsafe...


    Wrong answer.

    Take a tour in tthe of the Blue Asbestos deadly prison ship engine rooms, look around, and find theta....
  18. beeeaaach

    beeeaaach image of time

    after reading some on this board , I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here when i say scientology enbodies crime and the road to total poverty but most of all insanity... contagious insanity perhaps

    scio is a virus
  19. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader


    it's all about the BELIEF, not about TRUTH! :duh:
  20. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Breaking News: A non-scientologist helped at the scene of a car accident!

    An 85 year old man who could barely walk saved the lives of two woman by pulling them out of a burning car!

    Great story here:

    Can someone in the media please contact Tom Cruise for his comment on this feat?

    And yes, he did say that a scientologist is the only one who could help in this situation. At 1:09 in the below video: